Liveblogging The First Debate – Thread 2

9:10PM
I think we’re clogging the tubes here, so I started a new thread. McCain wants to protect our “credits.” He must’ve watched Star Wars: Episode I on his way yo Mississippi. And so far, Senator Obama is strong, sharp and forceful. Really impressive so far. Go!

9:14PM
Does McCain sound jittery? And why is Lehrer so anxious to get the candidates to talk to each other?

9:15PM
McCain has a pen!

9:19PM
Let’s talk about all the things McCain has done “since he began running.” How about every crazy thing that pops into his head from minute to minute.


9:24PMMcCain has that creepy Cryptkeeper chuckle happening now.9:27PMSo far, McCain seems scattered and spazzy. Senator Obama is collected and strong. I love it when McCain wheels out his same old zingers, then laughs to himself, and the audience is dead silent. Nothing pisses off a drama queen more than a dead crowd.9:30PMI was temporarily hypnotized by the strobing of McCain’s candy-cane tie.9:33PMIs McCain saying that America is funding terrorists?9:36PMSo McCain is going to shut down government spending on everything except two or three things. In order to bailout Wall Street. Tell your friends!9:38PMThe split-screen isn’t being nice to McCain. One word: Unserious.9:45PMObama is nailing McCain on Iraq. “Thinks the war started in 2007!” There’s one for the highlight reel.9:55PMMcCain loves “Petraeus” more than “Miss Congeniality.”9:57PMObama: “Singing songs about bombing Iran.” McCain’s response: I love war! I love it so!

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  • dontpanic23

    Whew, that felt funny.

  • idreamofskiba

    Dammit, what did McCain say when he held up his pen and made an angry face? My cable went all whack.

  • idreamofskiba

    Dammit, what did McCain say when he held up his pen and made an angry face? My cable went whack.

  • sherriwilson

    The sheriff? Except for when he was in the Keating 5

  • crystalclear

    I’m sure “Sheriff” isn’t the only thing McCain is called by fellow Senators.

  • http://poopandpolitics.blogspot.com/ MCat

    I’m glad he cut McCain off with the closing the corporate loop holes

  • KatinWilm

    It’s the heroin, dontpanic…you’ll get used to it.

  • crystalclear

    I’m sure “Sheriff” isn’t the only thing McCain is called by fellow Senators.

  • J M Ashby

    McCain is going to make spending bills famous! lol I bet he is.

  • ceu

    He’s going to veto EVERY SINGLE SPENDING BILL that comes across his desk?? He’s lost his mind! The gov’t will cease to function ’cause the $$ to run it comes in the form of SPENDING BILLS!

  • dontpanic23

    Did we lose everybody else when Bob blew out the lines?

  • idreamofskiba

    Ugh, sorry I did it again. Once I click “post” it acts like it’s stuck, then I have to go back to the main page. I will try to be more patient.

  • bearswife

    The pen! The Pen!

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    The corporate tax rate in Ireland is 12.5%, not 11, you fucking douche.

  • ceu

    That wasn’t your cable, dreamy; that was my boys rolling on the floor laughing!

  • jane

    *poof*

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    He said his pen is old. But not as old as the quill and ink well he used as a high school student.

  • dontpanic23

    McCain: “Oh shit, I brought my pen but forgot that bottle of ink.”

  • J M Ashby

    McCain looks angry an testy.

  • dontpanic23

    “Festooned!” “Festooned” Gawd he sounded so excited when he said that. Whargarble!

  • KatinWilm

    Ya know what John, Ireland’s growth is forecasted the other direction this year too, just like a lot of countries. And that had nothing to do with their corporate tax rate.Lehrer keeps calling for them to respond directly to each other. Perhaps they need the commercial break so they can bring out the mud pit…since it seems like that may be where we are heading….mud wrestling!!!

  • sherriwilson

    Christmas tree ornaments? WTF is he talking about? I think we need a new sheriff in this town…Why didn’t Jim stop the insanity and move on?

  • idreamofskiba

    McCain looks devilish sometimes.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    He’s starting to run off the rails a little.

  • Boston Jerry

    How did this become a conversation about earmark spending?

  • dontpanic23

    Carl we were stuck on the same page as we bottlenecked on in with the pen and ink.

  • gallery

    IS THIS THE MATRIX?

  • ceu

    McPOW is not looking happy. He’s seemed a bit miffed when Obama told him that what he was saying about Obama’s tax plan was “just not true”. Creepy grin time.

  • jane

    VERDICT, SHRED are these drinking words? I would have made them so had I any idea.(Did I mention my friend Kennedy in the hospital? Me sick but feel better)

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    What was that “far to the left” dig? What a fucking bastard.

  • Marbare

    CREST WHITE STRIPS..think about it Mcblame

  • http://obamaproject.windonwater.net QueenTiye

    Bob @9:14PMDoes McCain sound jittery? And why is Lehrer so anxious to get the candidates to talk to each other?That was the negotiated deal, though neither candidate is seeming to want to go there.So far Obama looks good, and is staying on point.QT

  • J M Ashby

    Actually the cost of the LCS (littoral combat ship) is more like 1 billion, not 400 million.

  • KatinWilm

    I think ‘fundamental’ should have been the drinking word. We’d all be in the ER tonight.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    What the fuck did that have to do with anything, the Liberal shot? Asswipe.And thank you, John, for saying you’ll do away with Ethanol subsidies. I can take that act on the road here in the Red Midwest.

  • sherriwilson

    Why didn’t he examine any of Halburtons contracts?

  • dontpanic23

    So Obama won’t even have to take the lead in pissing him off. The crowd might set him off. POW!

  • http://obamaproject.windonwater.net QueenTiye

    Bob @9:14PMDoes McCain sound jittery? And why is Lehrer so anxious to get the candidates to talk to each other?That was the negotiated deal, though neither candidate is seeming to want to go there.So far Obama looks good, and is staying on point.QT

  • crystalclear

    What is with McCain’s obsession with federal prison? Is he hoping he’ll get sent there so that he can be with his buddies?

  • jane

    “Did I mention I have friends?”

  • ceu

    He saved us $6 billion! and then spent it in less than a month in Iraq! The gov’t's spending too much?? Look to the east, my friend. Look what you and yours have wrought.

  • J M Ashby

    McCain has been smirking from the start. Thats going to cost him with most people. No one likes a smirk faced prick.

  • Marbare

    spending freeze..jesus mary and joseph, hatchet instead of using a scaple..nice one

  • cminri

    What are the drinking games words and phrases again?

  • J M Ashby

    Spending freeze on everything accept defense and veterans….yeah…what a dick

  • bearswife

    uh Ashby, Bush is a smirk faced prick and he got re-elected

  • KatinWilm

    Spending freeze??? Veterans??? Oh, yea…Johnny’s all about taking care of the vets

  • recruitgal

    How dare he mention Looking After Veterans as a spending priority, after voting against virtually every veterans bill that’s hit congress…

  • idreamofskiba

    Most republicans are smirk faced pricks, Ashby.

  • Marbare

    Ok.. can we just call it a night? I mean seriously, could he look and sound any older? out of touch?

  • cminri

    Ah…a Senator Clinton barb…

  • ceu

    Spending freeze on everything except on DEFENSE, entitlements, and those veterans bills that he’s been voting AGAINST! He’s insane!

  • dontpanic23

    Bearswife you’re scaring me.

  • Marbare

    dick. Wad. say it with me. Dick. Wad. ok. Drink

  • J M Ashby

    McCain looks to me like hes mumbling “get off my lawn” under his breath.

  • KatinWilm

    Perhaps “cut spending” can be a drinking word too. That must be what they briefed Johnny boy on before he came out – he keeps going back to that something fierce.

  • jane

    CM-The drinking words have evolved. The new list is as follows:smirk-faced (online only)freeze (economic,not global warming, reference)…and I kinda like “shred”

  • sherriwilson

    Obama makes McInane look like a mental midget. Also, I don’t think he realizes that deregulation caused the problems. People are tired of being “trickled” on

  • bearswife

    I want to hit myself in the head when Mc cracky speaks.

  • J M Ashby

    Bob – I caught that too.. he said “we send 700 billion dollars per year oveseas and some of it ends up in the hands of terrorists”

  • Boston Jerry

    I know 25-30% of this country will eat up everything McCain says, but for everyone else, how could you say you want that man to be the next President?I hope i don’t have too much faith in the american people

  • idreamofskiba

    I’m not watching this on CNN…are they really keeping a score card over there saying Obama is losing, or is my friend just fucking with me?

  • Marbare

    Dick. Wad. Drink. easy. I can’t take much more of this, is there a way to just mute McWhine?

  • crystalclear

    I think “Miss Congeniality” needs to be added to the drinking game.

  • sherriwilson

    McCrankyPants is really into the Miss Congeniality title…

  • cminri

    can we also drink every time he does that scary fake grin?

  • BrunoMachiavelli

    “I wasn’t voted Miss Congeniality” again. Who WAS voted Miss Congeniality? Sounds like he’s jealous.

  • recruitgal

    He needs another gag with the Miss Congeniality thing. Not cute, or funny.

  • ceu

    Is that true? Obama has a budget of $800 billion in spending?? Why isn’t Obama jumping down his throat?And WHY does he keep bringing that he wasn’t Miss Congeniality? Is he jealous of Sarah Lou?

  • dontpanic23

    JM : He really wants you off his lawn. Now. And pick up that shot glass.

  • The Colonel

    Bringing in the 90% voting record. Boom. The first major score for Obama.

  • J M Ashby

    Im a maverick! Palin is a maverick! Yeeehawww!

  • gallery

    Oh noes he didn’t just call HIMSELF a maverick

  • KatinWilm

    Woo hoo! Go Obama! He don’t need no mud!Oh, no. Not the return of “maverick.”

  • gallery

    Oh noes he didn’t just call HIMSELF a maverick

  • bearswife

    he said maverick twice, I chugged a beer!

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    C’mon, Barack. Smack him with Afghanistan.

  • BrunoMachiavelli

    “I wasn’t voted Miss Congeniality” again. Who WAS voted Miss Congeniality? Sounds like he’s jealous.

  • KatinWilm

    “We’re winning the war in Iraq.” McCain’s hitting the same heroin someone was passing around earlier.

  • recruitgal

    McCain On Iraq- I realized that this strategy needed a new strategy. Um, ok genius.Great opener on the war by Obama.

  • cminri

    SURGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    C’mon, Barack. Smack him with Afghanistan.

  • sherriwilson

    So lets vote for the man with the best judgement, unless he had the best judgement about the war we should never have had…

  • dontpanic23

    Ooooh now I’m getting that candy cane tie effect. I think our fearless leader is partaking in the heroin too.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    I don’t know, so far I’m scoring this pretty heavily in McCain’s corner. Tomorrow is going to be a bloodbath for Obama. He’s going to be eviscerated.

  • bearswife

    ooooh Obama is on step! Pass me the ‘step outside for a breath of fresh air’.

  • cminri

    They should ask McCain to define the word “victory” as it related to the war in Eye Rack.

  • ceu

    McMaverick is laughing at inappropriate times – we already have a president who does that. Don’t need another.

  • dontpanic23

    I so wanna slap that grin off his face. THANK for for cutting away to the one who is speaking. Shit.

  • sherriwilson

    Excellent summary of McDumbAss’s mistakes on the war!

  • jane

    The Necktie that went down in infamy.

  • idreamofskiba

    Seriously, Elvis?

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    When your guy is the one saying “not true, not true” under the other guy’s talking points, you’re losing. Plain and simple.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    I’m feeling the same way, Elvis.

  • dontpanic23

    ceu: no kidding. Scary shit.Dogpiss.

  • KatinWilm

    Carl’s right – Obama needs to move them off Iraq and get on Afganistan.

  • jane

    There was a comment surge and it succeeded

  • J M Ashby

    McLiar

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Mark my words: Tomorrow’s consensus — BBQ media or no — will put the win in McCain’s column. Unless McCain makes a MASSIVE mistake or says something really, really stupid, he wins the night.

  • http://obamaproject.windonwater.net QueenTiye

    Obama has to keep the story going on the fact that the war shouldn’t have been fought.QT

  • cminri

    Elvis..what else is he supposed to when McCain is lying and misrepresenting his positions?

  • dontpanic23

    New drinking word: “explectations”

  • J M Ashby

    I disagree Elvis, I guess im not the BBQ Media… but I think McCain has looked like an angry smirked old man so far. Totally shit-eating grin.

  • cminri

    Elvis..what else is he supposed to do when McCain is lying and misrepresenting his positions?

  • ceu

    I don’t think Obama’s being strong enough. I want him to pound the shit outta McMaverick every time he lies.

  • jane

    Elvis, you saw his ad today, din’cha! I’ll get a copy, and I’ll bring it to ya!

  • bearswife

    Obama just won points in Canada (like it matters) with Afghanistan. Afghanistan is the issue and he is dead on.

  • cminri

    sorry for the double post…cant tell if my posts are going thru sometimes

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    I think the tide may be turning with these Afghanistan questions.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Cminri – There’s nothing else he can do, but it means McCain is on the offensive and Obama has to mutter in opposition. That makes McCain the strong one, the aggressor, regardless of whether what he’s saying is the truth.

  • Marbare

    did he just take credit for the Taliban reforming after Russia pulled out? sweet.

  • dontpanic23

    cmini: I recently discovered if you bring up another tab or browser you can hit post then go to the other tab and refresh and it gets there faster.

  • J M Ashby

    lol McCain is a fucking idiot..We are ALREADY striking inside Pakistan

  • Marbare

    I think McDrunk has been playing our game with us? is he drunk? and why can’t he get his teeth whitened? I don’t understand. I don’t

  • Bill Delyon

    Now all I can see when they show McShame is that goofy wacko grin, and that damn tie!

  • recruitgal

    McCain wants an Afghani surge?

  • idreamofskiba

    Yikes, McCain is snarling.

  • cminri

    Elvis..just typical Republican attack first strategy…

  • Marbare

    thank god our drinking word wasn’t General Petraus..we’d be passed out

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    TaliPon? Isn’t that a line of non-stick cookware? Or an extra-large tampon?

  • gallery

    NO NO NO, Warshington starts with WAR….. FUCK YOU CUNTS.What an a hole…. Pakistan is firing on us right now. What the fuck is this man talking about.P.S. I see candy canes too.

  • ceu

    McBomber doesn’t understand that the Pakistanis don’t want to help us in Afghanistan! Does he not know that the US is already launching cross-border attacks??

  • recruitgal

    NICE – Call McCain on his rhetoric bullshit!

  • Marbare

    oh yea…bringing up bomb bomb bomb iran..

  • KatinWilm

    Ohh…nice…Obama just snarked at McCain about bombing Iran…I likey.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Sweet! North Korea extinction and Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran. O-BAM!-A!

  • sherriwilson

    Wow, I never though Obama could work in the “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” reference. Good work!

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    OUCH! Watch McCain’s face darken and shift and change after that shot Obama just took about Bomb Iran and his little songs. That’s the avenue to The Nathan Jessup Gambit. Keep hitting him there.

  • LoewLife

    aawww YEAAHH, obama just mentioned that mccain has “sung songs about bombing Iran”

  • jane

    Marbare is a dentophile.

  • bearswife

    bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb iran, thank you for bringing that up!

  • afalker

    (Shameless plug alert!)For what it’s worth, my own live blog:http://afalksview.blogspot.com

  • recruitgal

    REAGAN!

  • idreamofskiba

    There it is!!! (Ronald Regan.) Hahah.

  • sherriwilson

    Reagan reference…Its almost sad really

  • gallery

    Oh… an Olympic moment.Can’t win a gold without one.

  • LoewLife

    wow, 5 people just mentioned “bomb Iran” at the same time… must have been a good line

  • cminri

    i hate to admit it..but mccain is more lucid than I thought he’d be

  • BrunoMachiavelli

    I’m with Elvis so far. McAged swung hard with the 932Mil earmark issue and landed with it. And he’s even deflecting the “bomb bomb bomb Iran” albatross.

  • Bill Delyon

    McBush’s nostrils were just flaring big time.. Yikes!

  • jane

    Henceforth known as the “bombbomb” bomb

  • J M Ashby

    McCain just lost me and im actually knowledgeable on the subject”I gotta tell ya”What a hack

  • bearswife

    didn’t mean to double post.But here comes the town hall reference, DRINK!!!

  • gallery

    Oh… an Olympic moment.Can’t win a gold without one.

  • Marbare

    oh yea…bringing up bomb bomb bomb iran..he is so full of shit.

  • amaraya

    Can McCain stop with the stories from back in the day?! This is so obnoxious

  • Marbare

    oh yea…bringing up bomb bomb bomb iran..he is so full of shit.

  • cminri

    ASK HIM TO DEFINE WHAT VICTORY IN IRAQ MEANS!!!!

  • The Colonel

    Hey!!!! The POW card!!! I was waiting for that one.

  • crystalclear

    Is the audience still alive? It’s eerily quiet in the background.

  • BrunoMachiavelli

    I’m with Elvis so far. McAged swung hard with the 932Mil earmark issue and landed with it. And he’s even deflecting the “bomb bomb bomb Iran” albatross. Battle of the bracelets now.

  • ceu

    If McPOW uses the word “understand” one more time, you’ll hear me screaming in NYC!He talks like Bush – as though he’s the only person who understands anything; the rest of us are too stupid to get it.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    WHY WON’T YOU LOOK AT SENATOR OBAMA, MCCAIN?!? LOOK AT HIM! LOOK AT HIM!!!!

  • sherriwilson

    WTF is up with the jewelry comparison? McGrumpyOldMan is starting to look angry now…

  • jane

    (self censoring)

  • dontpanic23

    Jane LOL bombbomb I cam’t brteathe I’m laughing too hard. Serious now.Can’t do it.

  • cminri

    He cannot hide his rage at times..

  • bearswife

    Hey, I have travisited a lot of places!

  • cminri

    I need a break

  • J M Ashby

    I think McCain talking about Vietnam was not a smart move. It makes him look like an old war-whacky hack.

  • ceu

    A League of Democracies?? Is he taking creating the UN??

  • recruitgal

    Existential threat to Israel?

  • Bill Delyon

    McBush’s nostrils were just flaring big time.. Yikes!

  • dontpanic23

    The League of Elderly NationsHe enjoyed saying Painful a little too much referring to Iran.

  • gallery

    This site is well wonky.I have to quit the site to refresh now….. anyone else feeling it?

  • idreamofskiba

    McCain keeps doing some weird snake tongue thing.

  • ceu

    A League of Democracies?? He proposed that? Is he taking credit for creating the UN??

  • crystalclear

    Oh God, not the “League of Democracies” thing again. Sounds like a really bad comic book that would have been an insert in “Weekly Reader” during an election year back during the Cold War.

  • KatinWilm

    @ceu….that’s exactly what I thought when I heard that.

  • cminri

    me too gallery….

  • bearswife

    you know what is provocative? Me being vetted!

  • jane

    Hit him on the big corporations that stand to benefit from construction of nucular facilities.

  • amaraya

    CNN is measuring reactions from Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. It seems like Obama is winning the night, most of the time.

  • crystalclear

    Oh God, not the “League of Democracies” thing again. Sounds like a really bad comic book that would have been an insert in “Weekly Reader” during an election year back during the Cold War.

  • cminri

    gallery..i have to refresh the page after i hit post…

  • WalkThisJai

    Shriek!! did he just say holocaust?!A league of democratic values? did he just say something to that affect?- is that like the justice league of america?

  • jane

    stay strong, pony boy! refresh!

  • dontpanic23

    Yup gallery, very wonky. New browsers all round, not just tabs.Accchhhmminnnaaaajad?

  • sherriwilson

    McCreepyGrin doesn’t want to wast time talking when he could be bomb, bomb, bombing

  • recruitgal

    Talking to people is bad apparently.OBAMA, BRING UP SPAIN RIGHT NOW.

  • kansasdem

    Two Reagan’s!

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    AH-ME-DIN-DIN-DIN-E-JIHAD

  • J M Ashby

    Your website is dying Bob.

  • dontpanic23

    point-point-peristroikalet’s keep a list of this sputtery shit

  • bearswife

    ak ma din a ak mah den a akh meh dine a jad

  • jane

    “CNN is measuring reactions from Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. It seems like Obama is winning the night, most of the time.”Thanks, Amaraya, deserves repeating.

  • KatinWilm

    I just laughed out loud listening to McCain stumble over Ahmadinejad. And Chavez….and peristroika…

  • bearswife

    ak ma din a ak mah den a akh meh dine a jad

  • jane

    I have a loooong record! And a tiny arm!

  • ceu

    Oh, Christ! What an asshole!

  • HaremScarem

    Sen. Obama just said the word “tea”. GASP ELITIST

  • Bob_Cesca

    New thread started! Join me in thread 3.Movable Type is being slow and stubborn.

  • sherriwilson

    McCombover doesn’t like that Spain reference! Maybe the rage will come out now!

  • http://poopandpolitics.blogspot.com/ MCat

    recruit he just said spain!

  • dontpanic23

    SPAIN! Bingo! The rain in Spain–said PERFECTLY.

  • WalkThisJai

    Shriek! Did McCAin say holocaust?! Fear mongering.And what is this League of Democratic blah blah blah McCain is talking about- is that like the Justice League of America?

  • http://obamaproject.windonwater.net QueenTiye

    How about all that fear mongering by McCain? Hope that this makes it into your book, Bob.QT

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    POW! SCORE! KISSINGER! OWN ADVISOR! POW!FUCKING POW AGAIN! CUP OF TEA! BODYSLAM!And look at McCain squirm when he’s taking jabs. It makes him furious.

  • J M Ashby

    McCain is such a gutless hack for not looking at Obama.

  • http://obamaproject.windonwater.net QueenTiye

    OK – this is not good at all, the way he couldn’t get a word in. That didn’t look strong. :( And McCain took the aggressive stance of being dismissive – to crowd approval. Obama needs a comeback.QT

  • J M Ashby

    McCain looked into Putin’s eyes too?? Is there some kind of manlove trio going on between the three of them?

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    HAHA! Putin’s eyes! KGB! Sooooooo funny that 2000 year old man.

  • http://obamaproject.windonwater.net QueenTiye

    OK – this is not good at all, the way he couldn’t get a word in. That didn’t look strong. :( And McCain took the aggressive stance of being dismissive – to crowd approval. Obama needs a comeback.QT

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Notice that every time Obama slams McCain with something that is true, McCain responds with an exasperated sigh and a smile. What a tell.

  • J M Ashby

    omg McCain looks so fake and in love with himself

  • http://obamaproject.windonwater.net QueenTiye

    Oh fudge. :( Obama can’t keep ceding to McCain’s belligerence.QT

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    O’s gotta slam him on torture and voting against banning waterboarding.