Liveblogging Biden vs. Palin – Thread 2

7:37PM
I love the standee of Lincoln holding the Obama sign whilst Matthews was interviewing the college people.

7:38PM
Here’s a question for Sarah Palin: With the Dow tanking again today and the economy on the brink of disaster, is it really a good time for a local Alaskan gomer to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?

7:47PM
Cool! Plouffe has been reading my stuff:

Plouffe noted that Tom Brokow has been in the paper recently talking about “his communication with the McCain campaign and their friendship.”

“I assume they’ll apply the same standard to Tom Brokaw,” he said.

And here’s me yesterday:

And Brokaw is good friends with McCain and he’s moderating the debate next week.

Kidding. There’s no chance in hell Plouffe is anywhere near this place.

7:49PM
I never thought I’d live to see the day when cable news people are evaluating candidates based on their intelligence. And all it took was… two wars, a few major hurricanes, an economic meltdown, a climate crisis and an energy crisis.


8PMSo it’s looking like Sarah Palin is going to try to bait Senator Biden into going after her. And when he does… all the Republicans go WAAHHH!8:03PMRemember all that talk about Obama having a Michigan problem? So much for that.8:06PMWhenever McCain goes off on his “big-spending, do-nothing, me-first, country-second Warrrshington crowd” runs, I always wonder if he’s going to stop. I keep expecting him to continue, “hot dog, hee-haw, seersucker, pencil neck, rough riding, silly string, cheese whiz, milk, milk, lemonade, around the corner, fudge is made!”8:14PMWhy was everyone saying that this was a sit-down debate? I see podiums — or as Palin says, “Poodyumsss.”8:22PMDid Campbell Brown just call their giant TV screen thing “the Magic Wall”? Paddy Chayefsky just choked on his own vomit. Which is a challenge considering the fact that he died in 1981.8:36PMSo glad KO is going after McCain for his hypocrisy about the bailout bill this morning on Scarborough. McCain went off about how he would veto ANY bill that contained pork and he’d make — whoever — famous. And yet he voted for the goddamn bill.8:41PMNew thread started. Join me, why dontcha.

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  • jane

    HA!

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    SHOCKER: Palin comes off the plane clutching Trig. “Hey look, I have a little special baby! TAKE MY PICTURE, BITCHES!” That kid is so a political accessory for this woman.

  • dontpanic23

    Speaking of sign-holding, anybody seen the frat-pledges holding their pink Palin pushers for pay?

  • J M Ashby

    Calling Joe Biden an elitist makes him look like a total fuckass.Actually I think he said something along the lines of “arugula eating…”What a puke

  • dontpanic23

    Anybody see her getting off the plane, holding the baby with one hand across his back? His feet were flailing and I was cringing thinking she was going to drop him down the steps. Cripes, can you imagine that on live tv?

  • MatthewN

    Has everyone got their Palin Bingo cards?www.palinbingo.comI printed out three. The whole family will play!

  • jane

    Hey baby, we got this place to ourselves for a minute-

  • jane

    -TOO LATE! I knew it.

  • MatthewN

    Shall I step out for a moment?I hate to intrude…

  • dontpanic23

    You talkin’ to me, Jane?

  • jane

    DP- pink Palin Pushers for Pay. Fuck-me pumps? Pedal pushers? Brown acid?

  • dontpanic23

    Jane: all of the above.

  • idreamofskiba

    McCain/Palin supporters: What in the hell is wrong with these people? Seriously.

  • J M Ashby

    Skiba – 100% undeniable pure ignorance

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    OH MY GOD, STRETCH IS GOING OUT OF HIS FUCKING MIND RIGHT NOW! HE’S SALIVATING! HE’S LOSING HIS SHPADOINKLE!And he’s exactly right: Politico’s Mike Allen is being a complete douche.

  • MatthewN

    “She needs to demonstrate a minimal level of intellectual capacity”.Jeez, they had to dig a hole to set the bar this role.

  • dontpanic23

    Skiba they’re drunk and carrying $200 in their pockets from some right wingnut group. They don’t care if the signs say I AM STUPID. Okay, maybe they do say that if you hold your tongue just righ

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    LOL @ MatthewN: “Dig a hole to set the bar”Thread winner!

  • Tim in Charlotte

    I feel like I’m getting ready for the Super Bowl. Seriously, my roommates & I bought junk food & beer. We’re so psyched.

  • J M Ashby

    lmaoMatthews: “What IS an easy answer for her?”Asshat: “She didn’t want to show her smarts”

  • dontpanic23

    psssst–Jane. NC alert. We are everywhere–Jerry Rubin.

  • idreamofskiba

    My friend and I both agreed that waiting for this has been more exciting than waiting for Christmas.And I really do love Christmas Time.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Oh my god I would French-kiss Stretch right now, he’s making me turgid. That was fucking awesome.

  • jane

    I KNOW!!!! I noticed too!

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Tim – I’ve got that Superbowl feeling too. I’m getting pizza, putting the kid to bed early, and screaming at my tee-vee, huzzah!

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    Christ, Elvis…stiff breeze, crack of dawn and all that.

  • KatinWilm

    What’s up, crazy people?Who is that fucker Matthews just had on? What an idiot.

  • jane

    NC IN THE HIZZEEE

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    One of them was The Politico’s Mike Allen, being a douche. The other was New York Magazine’s John Heilemann. Matthews lost his fucking mind. It was gold.

  • kansasdem

    Jane has a dick?

  • jane

    I wouldn’t French-kiss Stretch with Elvis’ tongue.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Note to Stupid Fucking College Kids: YOU’RE NOT HELPING. Don’t bring the “I’m looking for Palin to mess up” bullshit, bring the “I’m looking for Palin to give me a reason to vote for her” for Christ’s sake!

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    I have rum, a pipe and an American made solid ash 35 oz. Louisville Slugger. One way or another, I fear for my television.

  • J M Ashby

    Glad its time for Olbermann.

  • KatinWilm

    Woo hoo Jane! We do have a serious majority goin’ on here (note my lack o’ “g”). Maybe this will prevail on Nov. 4!!I cau’ht the tail end of the interview with Allen/Heilemann – Matthews was goin’ nuts!

  • dontpanic23

    Cousin, pass that pipe. KO’s on. I want his suit to ripple.Don’t take the brown acid.

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    Early word from Ohio advance voting: Polls are overwhelmed. The tie-dye crowd is coming out and putting the youth freak on the scrutineers.Bad news…..FOR OBAMA! (/sarcasm)(‘scuse me while I giggle into my sleeve)

  • kansasdem

    I have clean pants on hand just in case Biden really fucks up!

  • jane

    Gimme a “G”! Oh, wait, she’s ‘iven them all to GObama.

  • KatinWilm

    Ohhhh…they are showing the Couric interviews again. I have to take shots when I see that now to numb the pain.

  • J M Ashby

    So bad she lost Hassleback.. rofl

  • dontpanic23

    Even Hasselbeck falls away. HA!

  • KatinWilm

    Oh, wait. I was taking shots anyways.

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    What we have in mind is breakfast in bed for 400,000 man!Fuckin’ eh! All it took was a black man in the White House and I get to live my Wavy Gravy fantasy!

  • J M Ashby

    Im hittin’ the rum now.Here’s a G for you Jane.

  • dontpanic23

    Wavy Gravy. I think I just swooned.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    KO says the expectation is now “Startling adequacy.” That’s exactly right. That’s the United States of America.

  • dontpanic23

    “me first, country second crowd”I guess that would be us, guys.

  • KatinWilm

    McCain – “Change is coming, change is coming, and some aren’t going to like it.” Wow…something I actually agree with the troll on.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Y’all think Plouffe gets the Leo McGarry Chair in the West Wing?

  • J M Ashby

    Holy shit @ palin on Cheney

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    I hate it when they reset my blog stats. Vicious downward spike that goes from, “hey…people are reading my stupid shit” to “ah, fuck it! TWO? Back to incessant barking!”

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    I’m in love with Richard Wolffe. He has such thinly-veiled contempt for us Americans.

  • kansasdem

    I’m sure everyone’s seen this but:I’ve Debated Sarah Palin More Than 20 Times — Here’s What It’s Likehttp://www.alternet.org/election08/101011/i%5C%27ve_debated_sarah_palin_more_than_20_times_–_here%5C%27s_what_it%5C%27s_like/One line says it all:”Her ability to fill the debate halls with her presence and her gift of the glittering generality made it possible for her to rely on populism instead of policy.”It comes down to ideology! Hell, I’m a dumb-ass and I can argue ideology all day long!

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    @ Avi: Yeah, we don’t even run stats on Clusterdouche!, too fucking depressing. We know no one is reading our stupid shit, we don’t need statistics to prove it.

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    What’s your RUM, Ashby? I’m a Bacardi Bat cuz it’s all I can get in Formosa. But had my druthers, Appleton Estates.Do you have a preference, as the cane candy goes?

  • dontpanic23

    My daughter calls Richard Wolffe KO’s Mini-Me. Look at them side by side.

  • idreamofskiba

    I’m in love with Richard Wolffe as well.

  • KatinWilm

    Somebody tell me how the hell Palin is going to attack Biden on foreign policy? The president of Pakistan likes my legs better than yours?

  • ceu

    She doesn’t get what the problem was with Cheney shooting some in the face while hunting enclosed quail from a fucking car and then failing to report it for more than 24 hours!! ARRGGGHHHH!

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    @ ElvisYou’ve seen ‘What About Bob?’I NEED. I NEEEEED.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    I enjoy that Rhum Barbancourt. HAITIAN rum, bitches! You’ll see zombies. It’s fucking gold.

  • J M Ashby

    Cousinavi – I prefer Captain Morgan Spiced Rum but right now all I have is Bacardi Silver. I could drink Captain Morgan straight.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    My wife and I love us some What About Bob? Best scene: Dreyfus throws open Bob’s car door and shouts “GETTOUTTADACAR!” in one manic hysterical burst. Priceless.GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEINEEDINEED! Baby steps!

  • jane

    Anyone?? was Terri Schiavo a SC case? Chris??

  • J M Ashby

    If Palin says something about Pakistanis wanting us to give them freedom, Im linking the Jeremy Piven video again.

  • dontpanic23

    Ah God, Bob was The Shit. I love that movie.

  • kansasdem

    “@ Avi: Yeah, we don’t even run stats on Clusterdouche!, too fucking depressing. We know no one is reading our stupid shit, we don’t need statistics to prove it.”Elvis,It’s “dumb” in the way Jon Stewart is dumb! Excellent = dumb, or vice-versa.

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    @ KatinPlatitudes, facts and folksy down home pandering boilerplate bullshit.Biden has been around long enough to have contradicted himself, the facts and Obama on numerous occasions. The openings are there, and there’s no way for Biden to respond except to agree (She’s right!), counter attack (He’s a bully!), or stick to the facts (She smacked him good and he never even had the balls to swing back!).Be thankful you’re watching from the sidelines and not standing in Joe’s shoes.I want WHARGARBL!But this is gonna be painful. Curse me if you must, but I’ll take bets and lay odds.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Jane – No, SCOTUS refused to issue cert. Four times. Federal District Court is as high as it got.

  • dontpanic23

    Jane I think it stayed in the FL courts.

  • kansasdem

    “Anyone?? was Terri Schiavo a SC case? Chris??”I think Florida Jane! ??????????????????

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Federal District Court and the Florida Supreme Court, of course. But SCOTUS denied cert, as well they fucking should have.I’m a SCOTUS junkie.

  • J M Ashby

    What About Bob – BBQ Media Edition: “mmmmmmm mmmmmm mmmm mmmmmmmm mmmmmm oh gawd mmmmmmm”

  • idreamofskiba

    Ya’ll are distractin’. Half the time I don’t hear what they’re saying on the T.V. because I’m too busy reading this.

  • jane

    Thanks everybody! I just gave up and wikid it and pretty much gleaned that (thanks to my Evelyn Wood classes!). But thanks for confirming my speed read. Hell, if she’d brought it up she woulda won points with her base and not looked quite so STUPID.

  • jane

    Caricature! THAT’s the word she stumbled on when Katie suggested “mock”

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    Distinguishing Sarah Palin’s ignorance of every judicial issue by granting her “It never made it to the USSC” is the absolute fucking HEIGHT of “cut you some slack.”She’s a RIGHT TO LIFER. Schiavo? Christ! (to be only slightly ironic)It’s not just a failure to name SC cases…it’s a failure to have any fucking idea of what is or MIGHT BE before the court!Not least of which would be the EXXON VALDEZ decision…you know, as Governor of ALASKA.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Palin comes off the plane clutching Trig.

    That’s just in case she falls, something will protect her face.

  • KatinWilm

    Actually, cousinavi, I think it would be fun to be in Joe’s shoes. I’d take that bitch down, and I would have to worry about tiptoeing around her gender (I’m a chick) or her motherhood (that too). And I’ve actually had sex with someone from another country – which gives me wwaaayyyy more foreign policy experience than her.And don’t worry, give me a few more cocktails and I’ll be cursing at you and with you. :)

  • dontpanic23

    Skiba I have the same problem. Plus Elvis keeps making that funny face and obscene hand gesture while quoting SCOTUS cases.

  • frank regan

    “First of all, Gwen, I’d like to say how sorry I am to hear about your accident and how becoming that cast and wheelchair are on you. And good luck on your book. You go, sister-girl. Now, about bombing Iran. Just let me say this about that.”Sarah Palin

  • kansasdem

    The debate! Unless Palin visibly shits herself the BBQ media is going to say she won!

  • dontpanic23

    Jane I tried to say the same thing as I realized it too. But I had trouble spelling it. Thank you.

  • jane

    Where is Wife of Bear??

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    Re: RUMLadies and gentleman, there are rums, and then there is THE rum. And it would deeply appreciated and returned in Formosan Sorghum booze of equal weight, if any of y’all might Fed-Ex a fella a bottle of Appleton Estates.

  • ceu

    Sorry, Jane…I was off reading elsewhere, but, as you know the answer is no. Congress did go rushing back to DC to try to do something about it though. Fucking pricks.

  • dontpanic23

    Palin shot her?

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    I’m sorry, but if you’re a grown woman and a fucking governor maybe you shouldn’t say “awesome” like a 10th grade cheerleader. She’s just a complete asshat.

  • Bob_Cesca

    When I was a hot rocking morning zoo disc jockey, I would open my radio show with the clip of Dr. Marvin screaming, “Bob! Six o’clock, Bob, rise and shine! Bob! Bob! BOB! BOB! GET UP! BOB!…”Wacky.

  • KatinWilm

    I was wondering too, Jane. We’re still missing a couple…where’s Carl? Has he taken wagers yet on the number of comments we’ll get to this evening?

  • J M Ashby

    What I really prefer to drink is Bourbon, made right here in Kentucky. But the kind I like is too expensive to have all the time.

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    @ KatinI’m IN another country. And half in the bag.Your fleshy, suggestive talk is liable to get this thread jacked.Flirt.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Wow! Shots fired at Carl. HooHoo! You’re a hoot, Kat.

  • jane

    I thought he was here again! Hi Carl.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    I’m a bourbon man too, JMA. Maker’s Mark. Lots and lots and lots of Maker’s Mark.

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    KO is making the point I made earlier in my Big Fat Prescient Prediction Machine: That without her rabid cheerleaders in the drunken redneck audience, the crickets are going to kill Palin.

  • KatinWilm

    Hey Carl! Glad you’re here! I just wanted to be sure that if you were taking bets, I got mine in. We were 10 short of 700 last time – think we’ll make it too 1,000 tonight?

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Hi Jane. Hello Mr. The Elvis Dingeldein. I’m still holding an ice pack to my nose after that shot from Kat. Hi Kat.

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    You’re listening to the ROCK of the Atlantic…Q one ohfour…EFF EM.Christ Cesca. You’re my bastard twin.

  • jane

    Me likey the whiskey. Neat. Dickel, the old stuff (white label?) used to live at work for our “after 5″ until we had that closet alcoholic there who drank it all. (Closet alkies are SO predictable.)

  • J M Ashby

    Makers Mark? yuck manBasil Hayden’s or nothing for me.

  • ceu

    Carl’s on his way home & eating dinner. Elvis is waiting for Jane to post at his blog. Jane’s brushing up on Wiki. Avi can’t decide between rum & pancakes. Bob’s trying to be a genial host and experiment with high tech shit so you all won’t be bitchin’ about how long it takes posts to show up. JM can’t figure out what the fuck to drink. And I have a headache the size of Baltimore.Try to keep up, people!

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    Okay…to hell with the Appleton Estates. Can someone send me a donair?

  • dontpanic23

    That was goddamn awesome, CEU. This place is aptly named.

  • ceu

    Barney Frank to Bill O’Reilly:You’re stupidity gets in the way of us having a rational discussion.and later:You don’t listen to anything. Or maybe you are listening and you’re just too dumb to understand.Somewhere in this house, someone is watching FOX…

  • jane

    CEU FTW

  • http://www.clusterdouche.com Elvis Dingeldein

    Hey Mr. The Carl Etc.

  • jane

    TWICE

  • KatinWilm

    Dickel, Jane? Goodness, you are in Nawth Kakalacky.It’s all in love, Carl, all in love. Besides, if I had really been trying, it wouldn’t be your nose you were holding an ice pack too. :)

  • J M Ashby

    Hey Elvis I think you need to craft a new Youtuber scenario for Glenn Cock and Betrayus.

  • kansasdem

    “I’m a bourbon man too, JMA. Maker’s Mark. Lots and lots and lots of Maker’s Mark.”Lord Calvert gets me closer to THE Lord!

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    @ Kat – now you’re just turning me on.

  • jane

    Laws i’s gettin haaawwwwt in heah

  • Poleezz

    Goddamn what channel is Bob watching? Pizza anyone?

  • WalkThisJai

    Bob they quoted your latest HuffPost piece on the front page of the Boston Metro (and probably other outlets). :)

  • J M Ashby

    You could pass for southeast kentucky with that attitude jane.When you go into SE Kentucky.. you can almost hear dueling banjos in the wind.

  • jane

    I spent a lifetime in the Upper Peninsula one December, and my taste/budget/level of care devolved to Seagram’s 7 or bong water by the end of the job.

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    Just so you all know (and, please, save your weeping and gnashing of teeth until the end of the presentation), I’ll be leaving to devote my full attention to the nuances…yes, the nuances.I shall have no time nor inclination to live blog. When I return, you will all be spent and uninterested in my perspective, so let me say now, before this thing gets into full swing, go fuck yourselves.

  • dontpanic23

    Them’s tha vapaaas, Jane.

  • ceu

    I love that quote from Barney Frank…I think more people that go on O’Reilly should say it.McCain said that the House should vote against the bailout bill that he just voted for?? Seriously? Did I hear that right?

  • Poleezz

    Jane, I’m betting on a down-do and I saw that you might be thinking up. Matters not if she’s wearing those fucking Vulcan ears tonight.

  • KatinWilm

    That’s just the vodka really kickin’ in Jane….I’m starting to feel mine too. Which means my typing and assorted other things are about to go downhill.

  • jane

    Et tu, Avi. Anon.

  • J M Ashby

    McCranky is tripping over himself.

  • KatinWilm

    Wow…I just saw the clip of McCain on ‘Morning Joe.’ That’s actually really disturbing. He’s lost what’s remaining of his brain cells.

  • jane

    Weren’t the vapors, or the spirits, i twas the flirtin’ dahlin.

  • kansasdem

    It’ll all be sexist BS and prejudice on Gwen Ifill’s part if Palin comes off bad!

  • ceu

    Correction – he said Bush should veto the bill he just voted for.Christ, what an asshole.

  • jane

    Polleeeeez, didn’t we see her, gettin off the plane?

  • KatinWilm

    Have a lovely time with the nuances, Avi… and since we are fucking ourselves, I expect we will as well.

  • dontpanic23

    Avi I’m with ya. Killing my back this way. Computer is at noon and tv at 4 O’Clock. Nobody’s passing the heroin so I must sit Over There.Will check in regularly I’m afraid.

  • Poleezz

    Missed that. What was it up or down or ears or all of the above?

  • J M Ashby

    Im sitting on my couch 6 feet from my TV with my laptop on wireless network. No back pain or eye strain.Oh and rum

  • jane

    (starts collection for laptop for DP)

  • dontpanic23

    (thanks. up here in the hills we don’t have laptops. just laps. they don’t pick up much)

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    I’m starting to get political wood. A Vice Presidential Debate cbhubby, if you will.

  • Poleezz

    I’m begging you Rach don’t talk to fucking Buchanan!!!!!!

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    That would be “chubby.”

  • kansasdem

    Flippin’ channels. Bill O’ say’s it’s all on Joe Biden! Palin wins one the “social side”!Because we ALL agree with Palin’s stands on social issues?????????????Check out the recent history of South Dakota’s abortion laws!

  • dontpanic23

    I can’t leave when Carl’s gettin’ politically aroused. Shit.

  • jane

    I guess we’ll know in 16-17 minutes, Poleeeeeeeeezzzz.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    You can leave, DP. Just watch the video on my pay site! AHAHAHA!!!!

  • KatinWilm

    Ah, Jane…on one hand a Dickel swillin’ redneck, on the other, a steel magnolia who likes flirtin’….you are indeed a woman of many talents.

  • Bob_Cesca

    New thread! Let’s go!

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Oooh, new thread. These series of tubes are confusing!

  • http://cousinavi.wordpress.com cousinavi

    Take a moment before this shit gets nuts.Tracy Chapman and Eric Clapton one my blog, rippin up a duet of Gimme One More Reason…http://cousinavi.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/baby-just-gimme-one-reason/It'll chill you out, set you up, and smooth everything out just right. Git’yer shoes on! It’s time to party!

  • kansasdem

    What a douche-bag! Yes, McDoofus said he would veto the bill he just voted for!http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081002/pl_politico/14214_1

  • kansasdem

    Soledad O’Brien needs to learn something! If you speak too fast it sucks! Even if you’re a hottie!

  • http://adult-sex-personals.corank.com adult personals

    alright i see the big picture.