Liveblogging The Second Presidential Debate

Can we put image links here? Let’s try. Look! It’s the Desperation Crocodile!

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Dang it…http://revolutionaryviews.com/chris/Eclectablog/ugly.jpg

If McCain gets asked about the economy and he pivots to attack Obama, I think it will entirely backfire.As per usual, the MSM will lap it up, but the polls will show the true reactions of people.

Tweety is surrounded by 360 degrees of Obama signs. I love those people.

Finally got my goddamn internet and phone back from goddamn Time Warner, out since 10am OUT OF MY MIND thinking I wouldn’t be here for this. Crossing my fngers it stays that way and I don’t get too snockered to make sense or stay awake. Ugh.

Oh what the…here I am.

How pathetic is it that these so called Republican strategists have to spew this crap from their mouths and expect people to believe it. How do they believe it?! How do they sleep at night?

Everyone keeps saying that Obama should fight back.It might be better if he were to respond with “I don’t want to get distracted by inane attacks… let’s get back to the economy. What I think is…”Wouldn’t that really highlight the difference between the two?

Loved it.

Getting a woman on camera saying she is voting for Obama to bring her husband home from war. Golden.Eat shit Palin

Dontpanic – Whats on the drink menu tonight?

BC-they don’t have to sleep, they never wake up.

Tweety trying to find a McCain supporter to interview and not being able to find one?Priceless.

Yeah, Matthew. Amazing pro-Obama crowd. Awesome to see in Nashville!

Obama will win (as he always does) on the issues–and then the BBQ media call it a tie.

I don’t know, JG. I think the wheels have come off the Straight Talk Express. It looks like no one with a rational thought is falling for it anymore.

JM: cheap white wine. If I live, I vote. Don’t drink much anymore so I’m a real lightweight.

JG – Apparently ALL debates are ties.Unless someone actually expires on stage, it’ll be billed as a tie.

JM: what’s your poison?

Retirement Account have lost $2 Trillion Dollars over the last 15 months?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/retirement-accounts-have_n_132737.htmlThat kind of loss will be felt for the next decade.Heckuva job Repiglicans.

My poison tonight is rum with cranberry juice and orange juice. I just stuck a couple beers in the freezer to fast track them for consumption before the debate.

Bad sign, I’m already yawning–long day. May have to mix Vault cola with the wine.Already sick of MSNBC. AssholeDobbs was on CNN–not an option–and Fixed is never an option. What to do.

I’ll be drinking red wine tonight as symbolism for the virtual blood I want to see flow on the townhall stage tonight. If the gloves are REALLY off then I want to see some cracked skulls. It’s time for an out-and-out brawl of ideology. Charity vs. Greed. Truth vs. Lies. Good vs. Evil. Political armageddon!! Let’s just hope it’s our man left standing.

I agree Carl, but the constant Ayers drumbeat is not helpful. And it is such a non-story. It really is amazing how every right-wing TP gets mentioned ad-nauseum.

I’m out of rum. I want to go get another bottle, but that would be a bad idea. Only gonna get a short nap before work as it is.Cheers, Cescians. Is there a drinking game in play?I suggest sips only for the creepy, Uncle Fester-ish “Hennnnh” and straight shots for the aggressive “That’s a LIE and You KNOW IT!”

Ah Cratty, that was good. Here’s hopin’. (owe the bitch a g)

Vault with Wine? O_o Strange.Just hold on 10 more minutes Dontpanic, Olbermann will take over at 8 on MSNBC.I quit watching CNN completely around 3 months ago.

Appears that as long as McCain doesn’t scream obscenities to Obama, he’s got this debate won!

I’ll chug if Obama says “That’s a lie..”. I’ll do the whole bottle. With pleasure.

ceu – I’m rather hoping he does scream obscenities. it would spice things up a bit.

The Ayers smear isn’t going to work, nor is any other blatant smear.No one gives a shit about smears at this point other than the true believer lunatics. People care about their pocketbook.”Its the economy, stupid” should have been trademarked.

Why is Tweety asking MITT ROMNEY about Bill Ayers?! C’mon Spit Boy!

Olbie! Yes! Thanks, JM, for that time-and-reality check. My brain is mush after this awful and weird day.Ceu: so the bar is set the same as Palin’s no-vomit one.

True, Matthew – the MSM would probably have to mention that in the post-debate McCain victory pronouncements. I wonder if Buchanan would explode or suddenly develop laryngitis…

Swear to God I just heard Mittens give credit to Obama for something McFuck said. Not that it was a good thing. Did anyone else hear it?

I’d buy tickets to see Buchanan’s head explode.

Have I been on a different planet or did fucking Mathews use to be a cocksucker?

Oh wait, he’s still a cocksucker. All is well.

Dontpanic – Tune into MSNBC when Obama wins and your wish may come true.

YES POLEEZZ!!!!! He gave the freeze on everything but military spending comment to Obama when it was McFuck that said it. And Tweety didn’t say a fucking thing because he was too busy thinking aobut going to a commercial break.

I hate fucking typekey!Did Norah O’Donnell just say that they’re going to have a focus group reaction graph thingie on MSNBC tonight?

Im glad Olbermann is on, I can leave my desk and head to the couch now.

Yes, KO is king. Buchanan will ‘splode in his presence. Gonna go listen to my man.

Whoa! Secret Service is investigating the “kill ‘em” shout from yesterday. Good! Lock that fucker up.

My cat just moved to the couch with me to watch Olbermann, I guess she is a fan too.

Why the FUCK is KO the ONLY one talking about how dangerous Palin and McCain’s rhetoric is?

Bob @ 7:58PMNorah is in King of Prussia, PA with a focus group thing. I should drive down and crash the party.

Bring back a report!QT

I’m really disgusted by the turn McCain & Palin have taken. Seriously, it’s Hitler condemning the Jews all over again to get the crowd in a frenzy.

I really do hope that after Obama wins in a landslide that the Enquirer or some other outfit drags that walking cesspool Palin through the mud on her drug addled kids, her AIP associations, her Troopergate mess, her tax mess, her adultery, and her LIE that Trigg is her baby–She is a despicable human being–and maybe I am engaging in the same thing she is, but she really needs to be shown to be the fraud that she is–

If McCain comes out tonight and tries to play nice and go into story-time and doesn’t attack, and then Palin continues to attack, then I think it will be abundantly clear that Palin is going to take all of the blame for losing.

I think they believe that this is done. Their only recourse is to attack and attack ugly. And in McCain’s eyes, Palin is expendable. Her career will be over after this campaign should they lose and the McCain campaign could really give a shit about her. I wonder if she knows she’s being used?

Her career’s not over. She’ll be the new talking head on Faux News.

Bob–The “heh” is brilliant–Stephanie Miller has been using that as sound effect–hilarious.

McCain’s idea of playing nice is to say “my friends” just before smearing Obama

I just want to see McCain lose his shit on national television. Just a complete and total meltdown. Please. Please.

I don’t think so, JG. They only go for younger hotties who have a better speaking voice with less of a twang. Besides, she wouldn’t leave Alaska for a job other than in the White House.

She probably doesn’t realize shes being used if after every campaign event she has senior advisers whispering goodjob in her ear.When she said she didn’t even blink when asked to run, I really dont believe that. I would be more willing to believe that a bunch of mccain advisros showed up at her door and told her how great she will be and how easy it will be and she believed them.Then when they figured out they were wrong they began to set her up to take all the blame for losing.

I swear I am in bizarro land–why, again, is KO the only one putting Palin’s vile rhetoric into context.

8 years of the Bush media has brought us to this.

Just watched KO do a great job of blasting the McCain campaign on inciting the mob. Watching Palin wink as she spewed untruths and listened to “Joe Six Pack” yell “Kill him” made me sick to my stomach. At this point, it’s beyond politics. This is a person’s life we are talking about here. It’s one thing to talk about a person’s stand on universal healthcare, a timeline in Iraq, but to willing incite a crowd of redneck, racist, probably mentally unstable people to want to kill someone? If something happens to Obama, “Pitbull” Palin and “The Artist Formerly Known As Honorable” McCain will have blood on their hands.

And apparently they are willing to have blood on their hands to win.

“I’ll chug if Obama says “That’s a lie..”. I’ll do the whole bottle. With pleasure.”Dontpanic….I’ll join you. With pleasure.

@ JG – because it would destroy the whole hockey-mom-joe-six-pack-barracuda meme that they’ve set up for her. The media no longer objectively reports, it creates the scenario out of whole cloth and doesn’t like to be proven wrong.

Palin is the regular hockey mom, and it can’t be anything different. It’s funny how the right was attacking Michelle Obama a few months ago as a black, radical militant, but Todd Palin’s association in the AIP isn’t even mentioned. Not funny really, more incredibly sad.

Holy Shit @ $440k dollar hotel bill for AIG execs 1 week AFTER bailing them out.Fucking incredible.

Obama needs to go hard on “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” line–he needs to hammer this at least three times–IMO

Unreal, eh, JM? $85 billion and they use it to go on retreat?! With $25K in spa treatments! Can we get our money back?

How do people keep from punching McCain and Palin in the necks?

I saw the 440K hotel bill too…that hearing was unreal…why aren’t these SOBs in jail?????about the Palin “Hot ” issue….wtf????really ??really???omg….Palin is inciting Violence and Hate- is that allowed ????really ???

Carl you are so right–they come up with these nonsense ZOMBIE narratives, and then reinforce them–facts be damned. I cannot tell you how many times I heard the BBQ pit say Palin was very strong on energy in the debate–huh? What becuase she mentioned the words “energy independence.” That’s policy strength? No it’s BBQ narrtives at play–

Kat – I don’t think they’d care that they would have blood on their hands, and the animals shouting that vile shit don’t see Obama as human because they are racists.

I’d like to see Obama confront John McCain and directly ask him if he (McCain) really thinks Obama is a terrorist. I’d like to see his reaction to that.

Don’t sweat it JM. I’m planning to submit receipts for a trip to Hawaii and a new laptop with my tax return this year. I figure that as I’m a part owner of AIG now, I can expense stuff to them too.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a great surrogate for Obama. They need to use her as much as possible.

Anyone know if Debbie Schultz is single? haha

I was just thinking the same thing, cminri. She comes out swinging every time. And she’s from Florida.

I want to know how Cindy McCain can live with herself, saying Obama has run a sleazy campaign. How can that bitch look herself in the mirror? How can Palin? These vile, hideous women do not represent anyone I know.

Does CSPAN have post debate coverage? I watch it on PBS HD–The CNN HD feed is like a stupid video game–

Did our gracious host put this thang on turbo tonight?

I wish Campbell Brown was single–I know she’s married to a right wing tool–but I find her incredibly attractive.

JG – Olberman is on again 10-11 after the debate.

Cindy’s been living with John for 28 years, Leeroy. She’s used to living with disgusting, nasty things. It’s just a daily occurrence for her.About Palin, I think the women of the world need to vote her out of the sisterhood. She doesn’t deserve the title. The one she gave herself, “Pitbull,” fits much better. Sorry, all you pitbulls out there.

BBC America does, JG

Somebody on KO’s team is reading our blog. YEAH!!!

yeah, I will be watching it–have the Divo set for CNN and MSNBC. I just got back from the future and surprisingly Fox called the debate a huge win for McCain–even the Fox “Dems.”

Okay..any bets on how long it takes before we hear the name William Ayers mentioned?

Actually, Debbie w shultz has been a VERY bad democrat.She was SUCK at raising funds in FL. and wouldn’t campaign for her fellow dems because she was friends with her republican opponent.DailyKos has A LOT of shit on her if you want to go search the archives.She’s doing penance now.

cminri–I feel it in my gut that an Ayers question will be asked. Low info undecideds + BBQ Brokaw=Ayers.

Wait, Faux already called a winner? The fucking thing hasn’t even started yet.

Or that Obama wants to raise taxes of people who make only $42k a year?

If Iron-BBQ-Chef Brokaw brings up Ayers but not the groups McCain and Palin have associated with, I will be pissed.

Evening fellow Cescans… What have I missed?Ah, never mind – a quick scroll through the comments tells me it’s just a big pile of BBQ ribbiness. Carry on…

I think I might watch “Dirty Jobs” on Discovery Channel instead of the debate..and just check on what you guys are saying. I might need a laugh.

You know, I know Obama is a Christian and Jesus allegedly said to turn the other cheek, but I want to see him take McCain down like a lion.

I like being told that I should “rethink” things. Is “rethink” code for something other than rethinking? Why didn’t he just tell me to rethink my decision. Does he not actually want me to do that? Brilliant.

Tweety has green hair.

Thanks Carl, Yeah I had to run down and eat dinner. I thought I heard that. Oh boy here comes the nutsack Mathews!

G’morning recruit….Mitt Romney was the grillmaster tonight.I think we need to order “Cescans for Obama” t-shirts.

I’m proud to be a Cescan!

What I would like to see is a Democrat in the Whitehouse with a democratic house AND senate and appoint some young left-leaning supreme court justices.And THEN prosecute the ever-loving-shit out of members of the bush administration. I’d like to see Cheney chained and sent to an international court of justice.

Hey where’s Jane tonight? And where the hell is Cous?

OK one of you senior Cescateers needs to help me on that one. Tweety just said that Lee Harvey Oswald was a far left wingnut?? Huh??

Ah, I really don’t know if I can sit through another one…Watching ‘Wrinkley, and Winkie’ the past few days, delving deeper and deeper into the cesspool,my self respect is getting in the way. If they feel they’re not going to win, quit, rather than foul your souls.McCain campaigns’ behavior and rhetoric are dangerous, and an insult to all of us, and shows exactly what he thinks of the American people.PS When he was a student at Episcopal High, his nickname was “Punk”.

I’m with you, Ashbyman. Perp walks for the entire administration.

Urgh! The BBC is streaming Charlie Gibson / ABC coverage. The horror, the horror…

Godamn! Tweety is such a douche ,always want’s to stir up shit.He wouldn’t let the Ayers thing go earlier.

Oh joy here we go!!!

Goddamn! Tweety is such a douche ,always want’s to stir up shit.He wouldn’t let the Ayers thing go earlier.

Hey schadenfroid…love your name. very creative…and one of my character traits as well.

Ha Schad I heard read that too!

sowwy

Belmont is a hyper-Christian school ,I can’t wait to see how many McSame plants are in the audience.

Kat: I’m in on the Cescan shirt. And the whole bottle chug. Please PLEASE let him call McCain a liar. I’ll even kill my liver.

It looks like Winky prepped him on the economy.Is it me or is he making as much sense as her…my friends

E-Bay just announced they’re laying off 1,600 people today!!!! Good example Johnny

LIAR! “I suspended my campaign” BULLSHIT, come on Barack, call him on it. Kill my liver.

The Foxwoods casino just laid off 6000.Even degenerate gamblers are being frugal.