Pollster Pollgasm

Would Elvis and Paddy please pass the cigarette around the room? I’m too superstitious to say anything like “woo hoo” but damn, we might just have a chance (knock knock knock).

That would be an interesting study, cminri. If anyone ever runs across it, please bring it here.

No need for a study: the less educated a person is, the more likely they have allowed themselves be to dumbed down by the boob tube and the more likely their belief systems are shaped by lies than by their church. Those willfully ignoramuses tend to vote GOP because they’ve been struck dumb by fear.

REMEMBER: McCain throwing out the lie (ACORN) as a smokescreen so they can purge voter records and deny foreclosure victims their votes. Not to mention the scare campaigns going on at college campuses.Dagnabit – they’ll prove those polling numbers were wrong – by hook or CROOK…

My son-in-law just stumbled me the fivethirtyeight. It’s making me shred my fingers knocking on wood.

@jenny-*whew*!

–just remember, tomorrow night’s debate will be moderated by Bob Schieffer who claims being shot down in a fighter plane qualifies one–he is the folksiest, most BBQey of the bunch. McCain is already hinting he speak speak of Voldemort…I mean Ayers.–The media WILL LOVE THIS, and they are already itching to tighten this race any way they can.Also, the sleaze factor will ramp up as well–I am cautiously optimistic at this point–squeeking by won;t be enough. We must CRUSH them at the polls. A crushing defeat will REPUDIATE the last 8 years and throw Bush’s Burka of Fear on the ash heap of history–

I know this doesn’t particularly pertain to this post, but i wanted to put it somewhere. It’s long and many of you have probably already seen this. I’ve had this conversation with my dad (a republican) who owns a small furniture business. Basically, my argument is if everyone in town is making more money they will buy more furniture, therefore you will make more money. (Again sorry for the length of this post):”This weekend,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said today, “a plumber concerned that Senator Obama was going to raise his taxes asked him directly about his plan. The response was telling. Senator Obama explained to him that he was going to raise his taxes to quote ‘spread the wealth around.’”Is that what happened?Judge for yourself — here’s the exchange.Outside Toledo, Ohio, on Sunday, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was approached by plumber Joe Wurzelbacher, a big, bald man with a goatee who asked Obama if he believes in the American dream.”I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280 thousand dollars a year,” Wurzelbacher said. “Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?”Obama said, “First off, you would get a 50% tax credit so you’d get a tax cut for your healthcare costs….. if your revenue is above 250 – then from 250 down, your taxes are going to stay the same. It is true that from 250 up – from 250 – 300 or so, so for that additional amount, you’d go from 36 to 39%, which is what it was under Bill Clinton. And the reason why we’re doing that is because 95% of small businesses make less than 250. So what I want to do is give them a tax cut. I want to give all these folks who are bus drivers, teachers, auto workers who make less, I want to give them a tax cut. And so what we’re doing is, we are saying that folks who make more than 250 that that marginal amount above 250 – they’re gonna be taxed at a 39 instead of a 36% rate.”Responded Wurzelbacher, “the reason I ask you about the American dream, I mean I’ve worked hard. I’m a plumber. I work 10-12 hours a day and I’m buying this company and I’m going to continue working that way. I’m getting taxed more and more while fulfilling the American dream.”"Well,” said Obama, “here’s a way of thinking about it. How long have been a plumber?”Wurzelbacher said 15 years.Obama says, “Over the last 15 years, when you weren’t making 250, you would have been given a tax cut from me, so you’d actually have more money, which means you would have saved more, which means you would have gotten to the point where you could build your small business quicker than under the current tax code. So there are two ways of looking at it – I mean one way of looking at it is, now that you’ve become more successful through hard work – you don’t want to be taxed as much.”“Exactly,” Wurzelbacher said.Obama continued, “But another way of looking at it is 95% of folks who are making less than 250, they may be working hard too, but they’re being taxed at a higher rate than they would be under mine. So what I’m doing is, put yourself back 10 years ago when you were only making whatever, 60 or 70. Under my tax plan you would be keeping more of your paycheck, you’d be paying lower taxes, which means you would have saved…Now look, nobody likes high taxes.”"No,” said Wurzelbacher.”Of course not,” said Obama. “But what’s happened is that we end up – we’ve cut taxes a lot for folks like me who make a lot more than 250. We haven’t given a break to folks who make less, and as a consequence, the average wage and income for ordinary folks, the vast majority of Americans, has actually gone down over the last eight years. So all I want to do is – I’ve got a tax cut. The only thing that changes, is I’m gonna cut taxes a little bit more for the folks who are most in need and for the 5% of the folks who are doing very well – even though they’ve been working hard and I appreciate that – I just want to make sure they’re paying a little bit more in order to pay for those other tax cuts. Now, I respect the disagreement. I just want you to be clear – it’s not that I want to punish your success – I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you – that they’ve got a chance at success too.”Wurzelbacher said it seemed as though Obama might support a flat tax.Obama says, “you know, I would be open to it except here’s the problem with a flat tax is that if you actually put a flat tax together, in order for it to work and replace all the revenue that we’ve got, you’d probably end up having to make it like about a 40% sales tax. I mean that’s the value added, making it up. Now some people say 23 or 25, but in truth when you add up all the revenue that would need to be raised, you’d have to slap on a whole bunch of sales taxes on. And I do believe for folks like me who have worked hard, but frankly also been lucky, I don’t mind paying just a little bit more than the waitress that I just met over there who’s things are slow and she can barely make the rent.”Obama said, “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re gonna be better off if you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody and I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”That’s the key moment McCain is jumping out…”when you spread the wealth around it’s good for everybody.”"But listen,” Obama said, shaking Wurzelbacher’s hand, “I respect what you do and I respect your question, and even if I don’t get your vote, I’m still gonna be working hard on your behalf, because small businesses are what creates jobs in this country and I want to encourage it.””Guys I gotta get out of here and go prepare for the debate,” Obama said, “but that was pretty good practice right there.”

Off the subject at hand..I’m 38 yo and I literally grew up on rap since the day it started. From the days of Public Enemy and BDP..Songs that made you angry and to think most of it politically, now when I hear Soilder Boy on the radio I want to puke, his music has no substance at all. But I read something from a southern rapper from Texas, older cat I’d say around 35, named Bun B apparently he gets it:”I think it’s terrible man. The government is getting ready to print up $700 Billion dollars of worthless paper. It has no value, it has no commodity to back it. I mean there’s no gas, there’s no oil behind this money;they just printing paper. The dollar is already devalued as it is. All they doing is making it harder to be an American right now. They really need to get their mind right. I’m very sad that they passed that.”

The government is getting ready to print up $700 Billion dollars of worthless paper. It has no value, it has no commodity to back it.Posted by: solrac2002Slate.com reposted a piece by Krugman – you know, the guy just won the NOBEL PRIZE for Economics – about how printing more money is sometimes just exactly what an economy needs.Check it out. In a situation where everyone wants more, and none is flowing around, it only makes sense to put more into circulation.Yeah…it’s a simplification…but just for fun, simplify the alternative. See what happens.

Mountains are always red, Bill.Show me elevation, I’ll show you someone who thinks Palin is the bee’s knees.

ceu – That would mean something if Dems would ever vote as a block, but they don’t.I think we could get 65 Senate seats, and still end up having trouble getting Democratic legislation passed.Republicans are much better at voting in lock-step than we are.

@Cousin-true.I know the human brain metabolizes glucose to feed itself.Could it be that the higher mountain elevations (less oxygen), is directly proporional to the stupidity of the Hatfields and Mckoys which reside???

When I see these latest maps I close my eyes so I don’t jinx it. McLAME has plenty of time to catch up…I’m a red sox fan, we just don’t talk about these things! Not until it’s over, then maybe we can have parades.

Could it be that the higher mountain elevations (less oxygen), is directly proporional to the stupidity of the Hatfields and Mckoys which reside???

Hey, cut the hillbilly remarks! I is one.

Cawt me a mudwhump down at the crick jest yestidy, Elmer.Ok, I give. What’s a MUDWHUMP? It’s this thin air up here. Thin red air. Makes us stoopid. You taught me how to do this so enlighten me further, oh Doctor Cox-looking one.

Man, I do hope Florida has turned “true blue” … although you’d never know it here in Bubbaville, land of Ford 4x4s and McBush-Paleolithic signs everywhere. Cretin Central. Poopyhead Paradise. Asshats!