When Is A Win A Win?

Posted by JumpyPants

As we were watching the debate last night, my spouse, who is not even half the political junkie that I am, asked a great question in regards to Sarah Palin’s incessant “we’re not wavin’ a white flag, we’re not leavin’ that dang Iraq until we got ourselves a darn victory” talk. The question was:

“What the hell would a victory be?”

And that really is the question, isn’t it? It’s a question McCain and his fake maverick fake partner won’t define for the obvious reason that if we are to use the vaguely expressed reasons stated for invading the nation in the first place — regime change, the execution of Mr. S. Hussein, the forming of a democratic government — then we have already “won.” “Yay.”

As Senators Obama and Biden have stated over and over again, let the Iraqis– with the police force we helped train, the massive surplus we helped them build — deal with the violence in their nation. For crying out loud, THEY have asked for it.

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  • cminri

    I yell out that same question whenever one of them says we wont leave until we achieve VICTORY! WTF does victory mean? And btw…JumpyPants….can you reveal your true identity to us commenters? We are a curious lot!

  • Alan4s

    And that really is the question, isn’t it? It’s a question McCain and his fake maverick fake partner won’t define for the obvious reason that if we are to use the vaguely expressed reasons stated for invading the nation in the first place — regime change, the execution of Mr. S. Hussein, the forming of a democratic government — then we have already “won.” “Yay.” We were also going to get rid of the WMD’s, so until we find those dang things, we’ll just have to stay the course! No white flags for us! Whargarble also!

  • kansasdem

    McFailin’ clearly don’t know what a win is! Whether it’s Iraq or a debate! I just saw a newsclip of Palin and Daddy McWarbucks in Pueblo, CO claiming that the debate went great!Well, FOX news and The Weekly Standard agree, but that’s about it!Every other poll I’ve seen puts Biden’s performance way out ahead of Palin’s!Drill that, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ConstanceRifle

    Anyone else notice that there was that one question…what is your greatest fault, or something or other, and Biden knocked it out of the park, but come McFailin’s turn, she goes off on how McCain’s a maverick? I swear, we were dying laughing listening to her greatest weaknesses being that she’s a Washington outsider and they’re both Mavericks.

  • kansasdem

    Edit: as of this moment even FAUXNEWS.com has Biden at 57% and The Barracuda at 43%.Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!

  • Zuke

    My wife and I actually asked that exact same question last night! Well, tbh, it was actually “Who would we be surrendering to? The locals?” We had two objectives:*Take out Saddam for haboring terrorists. DONE.*Take out any WMDs. Not applicable.Doesn’t that count as a win?Also last night, my wife started giggling and cried out “Drill, baby! Drill!” thereby completely ruining the mood.

  • ceu

    Constance – the “what’s your achilles heel” question. Clueless, utterly clueless.

  • cminri

    She didnt know what the term “Achilles Heel” means. Talk about a dumbfuck…

  • kansasdem

    Warning! Vomit inducing Palin video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ear3W1usG1cKatie Couric annoyed the barracuda!

  • ConstanceRifle

    Ahh yes…Achilles Heel, thanks ceu. I was too drunk by that point ;)

  • camel54

    Pretty funny when Palin said McCain tapped her. I didn’t know the old boy had it in him. Good show old bean.

  • harleynana

    is there any other middle americans out there annoyed at being referred to as “joe six pack”? i don’t like the picture that paints to the rest of the world, we have had eight years of having a joke in the white house, it’s time to get rid of the folksy witticisms to cover up a lack of knowledge, obama doesn’t need witty BS he is actually intelligent!

  • ConstanceRifle

    Fellow Cescans:Drudge has a poll asking who won the VP debate. Palin’s up 70-28. We need some poll-crashing done here.

  • http://livefreeordie08.wordpress.com LiveFreeOrDie08

    Constance-I saw that last night but decided I didn’t want to give Judge the satisfaction of claiming to have a balanced viewership. Let ‘em have their moment, that will be the last competition she wins for a very long time.

  • http://livefreeordie08.wordpress.com LiveFreeOrDie08

    Ha! meant Drudge

  • kansasdem

    All day long I’ve been upset that the BBQ press doesn’t call Palin on her refusal or inability to answer certain questions in last nights debate.It’s a big deal to me. Why? Well she could a few months from now be a heartbeat away from being POTUS.Then I thought about this video from the Young Turks from a few days ago:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsTLQ612F-A&NR=1She displayed the same kind of ignorance last night! Does she even know who Hamas is?I’d love to see her give a geography lesson, ala-how-to-spell-potato!

  • kansasdem

    Honestly are these two distant cousins or some shit:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZihMFYGM_o

  • http://livefreeordie08.wordpress.com LiveFreeOrDie08

    Did you all know that we’re all idiots? If you look at the ratings from last night, MSNBC came in dead last. So that, of course, means that only idiots and freaks are watching MSNBC, right?Could it really be TRUE that 6% of the population thinks MSNBC is useful?

  • grcratty

    “We had two objectives:*Take out Saddam for haboring terrorists. DONE.*Take out any WMDs. Not applicable.”Ah but you forget that those are the cover stories. What are the REAL objectives? The ulterior motives? I suspect that it’s those shadow ambitions that have been driving this fiasco the whole time. Or maybe it’s just a flagrant example of mission creep? How else does any of this make sense?

  • Poleezz

    Fuckin A. All day I’ve been trying to think of that song by Dylan, Idiot Wind. I posted these lyrics on Huff but I know they will get lost in the sea of wisdoms there. So for all of you, dig…”You’re an idiot, babe. It’s a wonder that you still know how to breathe. …” That about says it all for me concerning Palin. Have a great weekend!

  • Poleezz

    http://www.last.fm/music/Bob+Dylan/+videos/+1-UDZvP7T3B30Check it out. Bob once again being completely prophetic.