The Challenge Of 2009

by Lee Stranahan

Before I plunge into what I think is the nature of the challenge ahead, let me do something I haven’t done yet. Please allow me to introduce myself.

Right after the election, I got a call from Bob Cesca asking me if I wanted to blog here at the GDAB. Bob and I had known each other mostly by reputation and email and he was kind enough to post my videos quite a bit during the election.

I said yes immediately. I liked Bob a lot and thought he had a great, fair, passionate liberal head on his shoulders. The reason I said yes is that I liked the idea of being part of a multiple author blog because it allowed for a give and take, conversational quality that I felt would be important in the post Obama victory world of politics.


Now, I’m not new to blogging or to writing. I’ve kept a personal online public journal way before it was called blogging; for at least 16 years or so on various sites. I was the Editor-In-Cheif two magazines and have written for publication a fair bit, mostly on subjects related to video production and animation. That’s another thing Bob and I had in common; we both have a professional background in those areas.So, after the election I more or less just starting blogging about what was on my mind politically here. I’ve tried to do at least one post a day and I’ve pretty much kept to that. Bob had told me initially that he wanted to keep the blog moving in terms of content and so I tried to keep to a pace.The headlines and controversies since November have been partially predictable and partially out of the blue – things like gay marriage, Rick Warren , specific cabinet picks, and the continued economic disaster. And of course, this is all before Barack Obama has taken the oath of office.In every case, though, I’m just saying what is honestly on my mind. I have no interest in stirring up controversy for it’s own sake. One thing I’ve learned in the last year, though, is to trust my instincts and to not shy away from controversy, either. If I’m a minority voice on some issues, I need to speak my truth on it regardless of the fact that it’s not a popular position.This is especially true because I’m a true believer that there’s an Obama revolution afoot and it’s one that is going to present challenges to both Republicans and Democrats. I’ve written a few times about what Obama has called the smallness of our politics and how it applies to both sides, not just to the GOP.Obama’s challenge is not just political. It’s personal. He’s articulated time and again that people are going to need to step up and take responsibility for themselves, for their family and for their community. Again, this message hasn’t been popular with some; but I believe it’s fundamentally, deeply right.I don’t view the 2008 election as just another political victory. It wasn’t just about America electing a competent, intelligent President after eight years of terrifying buffoonery. It wasn’t just about electing an African-American President after four-hundred years of shameful racial problems. No, I think we’ve all witnessed something deeply important in a spiritual sense.It doesn’t take a good deal of faith or imagination to see Barack Obama’s victory – our victory – as karmic. It brings the promise of restoring balance to our country and our world. It presents us with the chance to do the right thing.It’s just a chance, though. And doing the right thing doesn’t mean doing unto our enemies as they have done to us. Endless war is no admirable goal, whether our enemies are foreign terrorists or the domestic villains who have occupied the White House for years. Eternal vigilance – that’s a worthy goal. But we have to be equally vigilant that we don’t become that which we fought against. Although it’s tempting, we can’t grow tired of being the ones who take the high road. We have to choose that higher road, again and again, tired or not – because the other path leads us nowhere but to destruction.This is the challenge and it’s not just our nation’s challenge. It’s not some abstract thing that we can hope other do. It’s something that each of us must work on in our own lives, every day.I feel the weight of that increasingly in my own life. I see the difference between my ideals and my actions at times. I’ve said things on this forum that I regret. I’ve been petty at times, needlessly insulting at others. Not too often, I hope, but enough where I see that I need to be better.I think Bob has kept a great balance here between funny commentary and serious thought. I think the conversations we have here are important. The consequences are great. Personally, I hope that you can bring other people – your friends, people you know online – into this community. Invite them, encourage them to comment, and to disagree or agree.In case I don’t say it to you before midnight, happy new year everyone/

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  • Amanda

    Your points are, in my opinion, honest and accurate. As I watched the rise of Obama ( I was originally a Clinton supporter), I was moved by his call to responsibility. As an educator, when he said that parents had to take a more active role in the education of their child, my standardized assessments and I stood up and took notice. Could this be? Were my ears deceiving me? Was I living in a dream…you know the one, where peace and sanity seem to have a chance of materalizing…or do they? Anyway, I am watching Obama eagerly and also mulling over how I can take a bigger role in my responsibility to my community. I enjoyed your post and will be back to read more. Thanks and Happy New Year !

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Well said, Lee. I too have felt the need be better, and it’s a lot easier said than done. But maybe that’s what my New Year’s Resolution should be this year. Not something superficial like cutting down on drinking, or watching my weight but to concsciously think of taking the high road. That will make me a better person.

    My own blog will still have its share of ranting and those lovely four letter words that bring a warm feeling to my heart because my opinion will always be my opinion. But as far as making a true difference, I will honestly try to do better… because we all have to try.

    Best wishes for a happy and health New Year.

    Carlos

  • scribblechic

    Well said Lee. I loved the videos you created during the campaign and I felt Bob was right on the money adding you to GDAB. I welcome your opinions and it’s definitely kept my interest(and sometimes my blood boiling) as I impatiently wait on Prez Elect to take over.I also agree that Democrats are in for a rude awakening if they think that this era of change only means changing of a party. Obama’s win didn’t just send a strong message to the Right it also holds up a mirror to the Left. Some Democrats are extremely uncomfortable with what they see as they are forced to acknowledge they have more in common with the GOP than they thought.I may not always agree with your opinions but I appreciate you keeping that mirror up and forcing us to recognize and debate the errors of our ways.I too am taking a Stranahan nugget into the New Year. I plan to fight SMARTER and stronger alongside the Obama administration to better my community and my country.Thanks for all you do Lee. I hope you and your family have a happy and prosperous new year.Same to you Bob. I look forward to the crazy geniuses you intoduce me to next year. :-)

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    Clearly the third way will be the best way:

    The looming battle that the Republicans foresee, of course, is the one that began during the bailout struggles in the fall: the fight over Obama’s plans to refashion our government into a heavily interventionist one, whether by a huge economic stimulus package or a universal health care plan. And they mean to fight it with the kind of arguments from anti-spending first principles that Pence, Hensarling, and Flake used against Republicans years ago, when the GOP was still flush with power. The socialist threat is urgent, they believe, and it is never too soon to launch pro-freedom counterattacks.

    Can’t wait to fold to these jerks at every turn just so it can seem like Democrats are taking the high road. Fuck practicality, let’s be “even handed”.>>He’s articulated time and again that people are going to need to step up and take responsibility for themselves, for their family and for their communitySounds a lot like the last (D) to hold the office. The one with the work to welfare and obliteration of Wall Street regulations.>>It brings the promise of restoring balance to our country and our world.Campbell Brown on this obsession with “balance”:

    “So when you have Candidate A saying the sky is blue, and Candidate B saying it’s a cloudy day, I look outside and I see, well, it’s a cloudy day,” she said. “I should be able to tell my viewers, ‘Candidate A is wrong, Candidate B is right.’ And not have to say, ‘Well, you decide.’ Then it would be like I’m an idiot. And I’d be treating the audience like idiots.”

    >>And doing the right thing doesn’t mean doing unto our enemies as they have done to us.This is code for not holding criminals accountable for criminal acts, right?>>We have to choose that higher road, again and again, tired or not – because the other path leads us nowhere but to destruction.What would the “low road” be? Passing progressive policies? Doing away with the concept of corporate personhood? Appointing progressive judges? Where do we have to draw the line to ensure that Cletus Q. Klanmember isn’t too broke up about what the big bad Democrats are doing?>>This is the challenge and it’s not just our nation’s challenge. It’s not some abstract thing that we can hope other do. It’s something that each of us must work on in our own lives, every day.According to whom? This is on the same level of “some say” in terms of credibility.>>I’ve said things on this forum that I regret. I’ve been petty at times, needlessly insulting at others.Like homosexuals who are so bold as to want rights equal to those that heterosexuals have?>>I think Bob has kept a great balance here between funny commentary and serious thought.There’s that B word again. Also, Bob often does post funny things. You should take a crack at that some time.Apropos of nothing, HAS anyone heard from Elvis D. lately?

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Happy New Year, Travis.

  • emsique

    The changes that need to happen now will not happen if Harry Reid does not grow a pair and stand up to the Republican obstructionists. Harry, if they threaten a filibuster, MAKE THEM FUCKING DO IT. It won’t go on for very long, before the nation and even their constituents tell them to sit down, shut the fuck up and let us fix all the crap you assholes have broken. My version of reaching across the aisle.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com willpen

    Here is to “Eternal Vigilance” and the strength we will need to maintain it.Lee, I have always enjoyed your posts at the Huff Post and am always glad to see your posts here as well.I am of the same mind as you are. Maybe this is that wisdom thing that you are supposed to grow into as you get older. I don’t frankly know why or do I ask questions. I Just do.Passion for things is so easy when you are on the younger side of the curve, but that does not mean that you should ever stop being passionate and wanting to question. I will have tons of questions to ask. I always have.Travis, I am watching you and trying to still figure you out and put you in some sort of category in my mind. Don’t think of this as a bad thing. This is what I do. I put things n categories so that I can pull them out when necessary. You all make very valid points here day after day. Some may be said in anger but they are always smart and thought provoking and that is what I think will always create the atmosphere of “Eternal Vigilance” that Lee spoke so profoundly of. We have a powerful tool in our hands and that tool is “Words”. Let’s hope that we can make a difference.

  • Lyle

    Of course there is the chance that Bill Clinton was actually right, and Obama is a fairy tale. It seems a lot of people are under the delusion that he is a secret liberal, and really believes in marriage rights for gays and renouncement of imperialist policies and fairness in the Israel/Palestinian conflict.However, he has publically stated that he is not in favor of gay marriage rights, he is in favor of ramping up the already lost Afghanistan war, and while he could interrupt his golf to issue a statement concerning the Burris Senate appointment, he could not be bothered to say anything about the hundreds of dead Palestinians at the wrong end of Apache helicopters and F-16 jets.

  • Alan4s

    Travis, dude, lighten up some, will you? It seems every time Lee posts anything, you’re right there to jump all over it.I don’t necassarily disagree with all that you are saying, it just comes across as very petty and vidictive the way that you say it.Isn’t it possible to state your own views and opinions as your own, insted of as a point-by-point disagreement with Lee? Your arguing is getting very tiring.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    And in rush the volunteer moderators!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com willpen

    Travis, your timing is impeccable.

  • gypsysoul

    >>because the other path leads us nowhere but to destruction.yeah, destruction of our enemies! (boo-yah) sorry if i am going to be better in ’09 i had to get that in today!

  • Teh Minx

    Not sure what to say here. I am glad, Lee, that Bob asked you to join the GDAB. Thoughtful looks to me to be the key in all of your posts, I am looking forward to more.On a personal note, check to see if state-sponsored insurance is available for your kids where you live. I know that in Wisconsin, all kids are insurable & it’s not income dependent (unless you’re making a zillion dollars/yr).The Minx

  • Alan4s

    >> And in rush the volunteer moderators!I’m not suggesting you stop saying what you’re saying. I’m suggesting that your thoughts would be accepted more readily if you weren’t such an asswipe prick in how you stated them.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    Perhaps it is you who is the ‘asswipe prick’, Mr. AOL Screenname. And whose mind do you think I’m out to change? Spoiler: not yours.

  • frictionsoul

    “people are going to need to step up and take responsibility for themselves, for their family and for their community. Again, this message hasn’t been popular with some; but I believe it’s fundamentally, deeply right.”That’s the GOP message that they never lived up to, in a nutshell.Sorry if I came across snarky on health issues. Personal responsibility for self, family and community begins with YOU. You have to live by example on whatever issue you want to own.So do I. This will probably be my last post GDAB because I’m focusing on getting my own community to compost, grow veggies in their backyards and learn to bend over and garden instead of sucking up the exhaust behind a holdover from Victorian era class warfare (lawns).My love isn’t too thrilled with it, and neither is my son. They want to play on the grass, yet when summer comes it’s too hot for that except at dusk. So, I can’t bother with all the whatifs. I’ve killed off the grass in the sunniest places and looking forward to growing food again this Spring and Summer.Also, I think Michael Pollan has it right:http://michaelpollan.com/article.php?id=97If we can change the way we get our food, we can clean up the land, air and water far more quickly than pushing Obama to help in that area, especially since Vilsack is going to be Sec of Ag. Yuck. We can start the change now. I started last year, and other before me, to convert lawns to food.Happy New Year Lee.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    And whose mind do you think I’m out to change? Spoiler: not yours.

    With that attitude, you won’t have much luck changing many. But my better self says once again, Happy New Year.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    I think my favorite lame passive aggressive tactic is “I’d say something insulting, but I’m above that”. Almost as good as “that’s just [name] being [name]” or “I don’t have time to explain this, but…”

  • http://muchrejoicing.net Jeremiah G

    Travis, my favorite lame tactic is when you respond to ANYONE who mentions your name, right after they say your name. And you respond negatively. That’s awesome (not).

  • http://jennydemilo.blogspot.com JennyDemilo

    “people are going to need to step up and take responsibility for themselves, for their family and for their community”Im a little confused by that statementThere are some of out here who have been doing just that and in the most dificult of situations. The implication that were all a bunch of yahoos with our thumbs up our asses sitting around doing nothing is insulting.

  • thespacecowboy

    “Obama’s challenge is not just political. It’s personal. He’s articulated time and again that people are going to need to step up and take responsibility for themselves…”This just appears to be paraphrasing the blogger’s take on Obama’s stance. It does not appear to be his intention to be insulting.Perhaps my comprehension skills are not so good.

  • thespacecowboy

    I really should say that it’s the blogger paraphrasing Obama’s stance…Maybe my writing skills suck as bad…

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    I think my favorite lame passive aggressive tactic is “I’d say something insulting, but I’m above that”. Almost as good as “that’s just [name] being [name]” or “I don’t have time to explain this, but…”

    Okay. How about this: Fuck you, Travis.

    Better?

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    Ah Travis,Wise men speak because they have something to say,Fools speak because they have to say something.Guess which part you fall under? (spoiler: not the first)And Happy New Year to you, kid.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    To quote a great man, “Broadway Carl”,”U mad doggy”Don’t you have some BUSH=CHIMP HITLER blogging to do?Oh but here’s a Texan to get your back, so I guess your shift is over.

  • Lyle

    I take it that all this venom for Travis is for some past indiscretion as there was nothing in his original comment to warrant all the grade school insults.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    >>>>I take it that all this venom for Travis is for some past indiscretion as there was nothing in his original comment to warrant all the grade school insults.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Lyle – yeah, he’s usually just an asshole who can’t make his point without insulting someone in the process.

    Travis – Thanks for reading my blog. Just took a trip to yours to see if you had anything of interest to say:

    “The Orioles pitching staff is like Obama’s cabinet. Players in theory, but unable to produce positive results or enact any kind of substantive change.”

    Great job judging Obama’s cabinet before they actually take office. Maybe you should get your own cable news show.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    The funny thing is Travis has gone to my site, but I haven’t gone to his because I figured there wouldn’t be anything there worth my time.And judging from the quote Broadway Carl just posted, it looks like I’m right?

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    True that, LT.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    >>Great job judging Obama’s cabinet before they actually take office.Yeah that Hillary Clinton sure is an unknown quantity. Who can tell what this batch of fresh faced unknowns can do?Let’s make more of these comments about me and not about the drivel Lee posted. It’s the only sane choice!

  • Alan4s

    The point is that when liberals/progressives start bickering amongst themselves then we will all loose. I was suggesting to Travis that he make his very serious and not altogether wrong points in a more civil fashion. Rather than take some constructive criticism, or even just quietly ignore something he’d rather not acknowledge in himself, he has to attack instead.Seriously, attitudes like that will NOT promote our agenda, and will let the rabid right take over sooner rather than later. As wrong and repugnant as the right wing is, at least the know when to put on a united front and ride it for all it’s worth.Sadly, if there are many like Travis on the left then Mr. Obama will have a very short run.

  • josh

    What internet-discussion put-down device am I increasingly growing tired of? SPOILER: The use of “SPOILER” as a clever device to answer a self-posed question.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Yeah that Hillary Clinton sure is an unknown quantity.

    Hmmm… Oh, I’m sorry, Travis. Did you specify Hillary Clinton? Let’s see… Nope. It definitely says, “Obama’s cabinet.”

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    >>Sadly, if there are many like Travis on the left then Mr. Obama will have a very short run.I think I’ve already gone over this, but a silent left is part of what turned the Clinton Administration into the corporatist triangulation machine so many 40-somethings are nostalgic for. I’d rather not have 8 more years of that shit.>>Hmmm… Oh, I’m sorry, Travis. Did you specify Hillary Clinton? Let’s see… Nope. It definitely says, “Obama’s cabinet.”Oh you clever minx. You got me, nobody’s ever heard of Tom Vilasack, Bill Richardson, Robert Gates, Tom Daschle, Janet Napolitano, Ken Salazar, or Tim Geithner.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    I said it before and I’ll say it again, Travis.You seem to have some real personal animosity towards Lee that extends beyond his opinion. Have you even met the man? Did he shoot your dog or something?It was Bob who invited Lee here, and this is Bob’s blog, so evidently Bob seems to like Lee even though they disagree from time to time.Did Bob invite you here?

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    I don’t see how any of those questions are germane to anything I’ve posted whatsoever. Y’all.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Okay, Travis. Name your cabinet.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    >>>I think I’ve already gone over this, but a silent left is part of what turned the Clinton Administration into the corporatist triangulation machine so many 40-somethings are nostalgic for. I’d rather not have 8 more years of that shit.

  • Alan4s

    “I think I’ve already gone over this, but a silent left is part of what turned the Clinton Administration into the corporatist triangulation machine so many 40-somethings are nostalgic for. I’d rather not have 8 more years of that shit.”And I know I’ve gone over this, in this very thread even. I’m not advocating a silent left at all. By all means, state your opinion, say what needs to be done. Just do it civily and don’t be a fucking asshole about it. And pay attention to what others are actually saying! Just because we are not ranting and raving with a shrill voice does NOT mean we don’t agree with you.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    >>Ever occurred to you that may have had something to do with Bill Clinton himself and not necessarily the people he hired?>>Hillary Clinton, Secretary of Statehead asplode

  • http://www.politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ politicalpartypooper

    Teh Minx,You don’t live in Wisconsin, do you? If so Rock on! So do I. I didn’t know anyone else lived here ‘cept me.Travis, do you need a hug?

  • http://jennydemilo.blogspot.com JennyDemilo

    Umm i happen to l,ike Travis involvement in this blog. Hes, snarky smart and has his own point of view and hes not shy about speaking it. He often makes me laugh. I like to laugh.So why don’t you who take issue with his commenting look at why Travis responding gets you all bunched up. Why is it YOU cant let someone have their opportunity to comment, without turning it into a chest thumping he man crotch grab.

  • http://www.politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ politicalpartypooper

    Jenny,Because chest thumping he-man crotch grabs rock!Having said that, i actually enjoy conversing with Travis.Lee,I’m relatively new here, and hardly ever agree with Bob. I think he’s reactionary, and loves stirring the shit, which can be fun, but also accomplishes ALMOST nothing. That being said, I like his blog, I like the way he writes, and the people here are solid, good, citizens. (yes, Bob, that includes you).On the other hand, I almost always agree with you, and I enjoy what you write as well.Here’s to 2009 being The Best of Times, may we always remember it as such also, too.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Why is it YOU cant let someone have their opportunity to comment, without turning it into a chest thumping he man crotch grab.

    Jenny – Travis has every opportunity to comment, and does so often. To my knowledge, no one here has been censored or had their comments deleted. But I agree with Alan that it can be civil.

    I had the good fortune of reading one of Travis’ comments here without the snark. But his astuteness, in my opinion, is obscured by the insults. Speaking for myself, that’s all I’m saying. And if anyone turns the commenting into a chest thumping contest, all you have to do is look at past posts to see where it originates.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    >>>So why don’t you who take issue with his commenting look at why Travis responding gets you all bunched up. Why is it YOU cant let someone have their opportunity to comment, without turning it into a chest thumping he man crotch grab.

  • Alan4s

    Exactly what Carl said.

  • viccan

    Happy New Year, Lee, Bob, and everyone!! May 2009 bring good health along with a positive change in the economy@!I have long wanted to ask T. Disaster if his way of responding is deliberate and consistently negative in order to be oppositional, or if he truly believes everything he says.T. D.,is it a role you are playing? {I’ve wondered about this because I have rarely seen a snark-free post written by you and no-one can be so negative all the time. Part of the reason I haven’t asked before is that I feared I might end up being the recipient of your snark – something I know I couldn’t handle very well. Nevertheless, the question lingers in my mind, so I’m going to step out of my comfort zone this December 31st? T. Disaster, are your responses part of a game you are playing or are you really serious with all your criticisms? And if you are always serious – what DOES work for you re the recent election and the imminent change of leadership?

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com willpen

    Just a late chiming in here on the Travis fest. The way I see it is:Travis is as Travis does… and that is what makes the world go round.. plus I love a good challenge anytime.

  • http://jennydemilo.blogspot.com JennyDemilo

    yeah so basically none of you could answer the question. Maybe you all need a little more time to think on WHY you have to turn it into a hissy fit.I’m beginning to think its because hes quicker on the draw and like Harrison ford in American Graffiti just heave to try to out race him. yeah well, he crashed.And don’t think i didnt notice that almost all of you took the question i posed as another opportunity to shake your balls at Travis….and viccan I’ve been the recipient of Travis snark. If i can handle it then so can you, Nancy

  • http://windonwater.net QueenTiye

    Lee, happy New Year to you and yours. You and all the Cescans who wouldn’t mind it are in my prayers.QT (if this doubles sorry… handhelds make for ghastly typos!)

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    >>Travis could’ve responded to Lee’s blog post in several ways, but he chose the most disrespectful way.I wasn’t aware that Stranhan was a clergyman now.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    >>>Travis is as Travis does.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    We did answer your question Jenny.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    >>>I wasn’t aware that Stranhan was a clergyman now.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    >>yeah so basically none of you could answer the questionIt’s easy to pile on. Also they’re hoping Stranhan himself will chime in so they can feel like they’re “right”. It’s all much easier than disputing any of the substantive points I made in my original comment. Extra emphasis in both cases on “easy”.

  • http://www.windonwater.net QueenTiye

    Jenny, this is one of the times I don’t think Travis deserves some of what he got. OTOH, his opening post was tone deaf. Lee’s post was conciliatory to everyone here. Even in disagreement, Travis could have struck a similar tone. But he won’t, because he’s been arguing that Lee is the enemy for some time now.I think Travis should find it in him to acknowledge that people can have similar vies while espousing different tactics. People do get upset about being misrepresented – and Lee’s determination to fight progressive battles in a different way is not the same thing as Lee opposing progressive values.Anyway, it makes me sad to see such an openhearted post stomped all over. Like viccan, its enoug to keep me away.QT

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    >>>It’s easy to pile on. Also they’re hoping Stranhan himself will chime in so they can feel like they’re “right”. It’s all much easier than disputing any of the substantive points I made in my original comment.>Lee’s post was conciliatory to everyone here. Even in disagreement, Travis could have struck a similar tone. But he won’t, because he’s been arguing that Lee is the enemy for some time now.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    >>The point that seems to not get through to you is that in this blog post your points…were not necessary and were uncalled for.Interesting that you’d appoint yourself arbiter of what comments are permissible and which are not, especially when they’re substantive and not of an ad hominem nature. Seems to me you’ve got a personal problem. Good luck with that, pardner.

  • theo

    and people wonder why liberals have the disturbing tendency to lose elections.

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    Travis,”Also they’re hoping Stranhan himself will chime in so they can feel like they’re “right”. ‘I’m always right. You learned that the hard way yesterday. ;o)

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    >>>Interesting that you’d appoint yourself arbiter of what comments are permissible and which are not, especially when they’re substantive and not of an ad hominem nature. Seems to me you’ve got a personal problem. Good luck with that, pardner.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com willpen

    It seems to me that you guys all let your buttons get pressed way to easily. My simple and intentionally meaningless comment that:Travis is as Travis doeselicted responses that had absolutely nothing to do with any thing.If Travis wants to knock his head against a wall, does everyone have to follow? Should he be nicer? Most probably. Are you going to change him by defiance? Nope. Lighten up. I know… you are all gonna jump all over me now for this comment. This should be fun guys.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    To say “Travis is as Travis does” concerning this post begs the question “Does that make it right?In this case, Travis boy is just plain wrong. He could’ve let Lee have his say and moved on for another day. But in this case, Travis acted as a fool, and fools speak because they have to say something.And we’d be doing Travis a great disservice if we didn’t point that out. ^_^

  • Lyle

    For expressing his opinion, Travis was told to lighten up, was called bitter and vindictive, tiresome, argumentative, and an asswipe prick with an attitude who should fuck off.

  • http://themidnightsolution.blogspot.com LTMidknite

    >>>For expressing his opinion, Travis was told to lighten up, was called bitter and vindictive, tiresome, argumentative, and an asswipe prick with an attitude who should fuck off.

  • Teh Minx

    Yes, Pooper (I feel so silly calling you that)– Good memory!I am in a smallish city west of Milwaukee.Off to the PTT, Happy New Year to Everyone!~Teh Minx~

  • http://www.leestranahan.com Lee Stranahan

    I like to remind myself that Travis is part of the Team Of Rivals here. He’s a good representative of the old Angry Left crowd; a lot of the diaries and comments on Kos or FireDogLake fall into the category, too. Being angry doesn’t make them more left, although they tend to act like they are the One True Faith. I’d define it as a mix of feeling persecuted, victimized, and then wanting revenge or payback in some form.The Angry Right ruled for years and destroyed the GOP for the next generation. Thankfully, the Angry Left isn’t running things in the Democratic Party anymore.Curiously, Bill Clinton and to a lesser extent Hillary are Angry Left-ists, except it’s all about them personally not a specific legislative agenda.So, in a sense I view Travis the same way as I view Sarah Palin; they lost, we won. Sanity ruled the day in November. I don’t need to twist the knife further because there’s work to do.

  • Lee

    @ Travis D’s quote of Cambell Brown… Damn I hate her.

  • http://unrelatedcontent.com Travis D

    >>I’m always right. You learned that the hard way yesterday. ;o)How’s your wife?>>Bill Clinton and to a lesser extent Hillary are Angry Left-istsDohohohoho>>So, in a sense I view Travis the same way as I view Sarah PalinPoints for being subtle for once.