More Randnuttery : Riot Edition

Posted on 03/21/2009 at 5:38 pm by admin

by Lee Stranahan

I’ve spent a couple of days battling Objectivsts over such vital topics as whether there such thing as The Common Good on a couple of different boards that commented on my HuffPost Ayn Rand piece.

One thing that all the Ayn Rand fans say, over and over, is that they have NOTHING in common with the conservatives or the likes of Rush Limbaugh and that any implication that they have anything to do with the Republicans is vicious awful lie on my part.

So I post this from Objectivist blog The New Clarion…

If there is mob violence against big businessmen, it will be because the Democrat Party, led by Barack Obama, desired violence, planned violence, and acted to get violence started. It will NOT be because of the spontaneous anger of the common man, or whatever nonsense Washington, D.C. feeds us. The statists want a scapegoat, and you better believe they will get one. Leftists play the game politics for keeps.

Almost 50 years ago Ayn Rand called big businessmen America’s most persecuted minority. Nothing has changed. America has elected a black man as president, but there is no relief in sight for the most persecuted minority. Quite the opposite, President Obama is shaping up to be the greatest persecutor of a minority in American history.

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  • SillyRatfacedGit

    I wish I could be persecuted like the CEOs of the Corporatist ruling elite.I’ve never been able to afford to Golf even though I’ve made as much as $140,000 a year.Flying in corporate jets is such a burden. I feel so sorry for this persecuted minority. It’s such a bitch having only 2 or 3 Mercedes and the BMWs for the wife and kids. Life is such a burden having to live in places like Bel Air, Greenwich, New Canaan, Darien, and Westport. Persecution really sucks I tell you.What a bunch of wankers.

  • SillyRatfacedGit

    Are all objectivists delusional or is this sample of objectivists atypical?

  • http://www.colorado-yardening.com Peter

    Not even the sound of bong water bubbling in the background helps this make any sense.

  • http://www.thenewwearsoff.com/ Kyle

    Git, they are all delusional. They feel that big business has had a rough go in America going all the way back to the Sherman Antitrust Act.

    I wish Adam Curtis would have covered Rand (as he originally intended) in his documentary, The Power of Nightmares.

  • ceu

    And there’s this via Twitter and Jenny Slater

  • Elvis the Dingeldein™

    Great link, Ceu (and I love the Hey Jenny Slater bit, as that’s a line from one of my favorite movies of all time). Money Quote from that link:

    I’ve had the misfortune of running into a few Rand devotees in social settings, and to call them dipshits would be an insult to both dip and shit.

  • Elvis the Dingeldein™

    No, sorry. Just a paragraph later, the Money Quote in the piece is certainly this:

    And if you actually liked [Atlas Shrugged] (or claim to), then the best way you can “go John Galt” is by killing yourself. Seriously. If what you really want is to remove yourself from society, it doesn’t get much more definitive than that.

    Huzzah!

  • http://www.osborneink.com Matt Osborne

    I tried reading a copy of The Objectivist once. I gave up after three pages. There’s nothing “objective” about it all — it’s a cult. If Rand were alive today she’d be hosting seminars like Anthony Robbins.

  • jenski42

    Bestest website to see the insanity: Objectivist dating. Article here -http://nymag.com/news/features/artifact/51814/Fun quote:You should contact me if you are a skinny woman. If your words are a meaningful progression of concepts rather than a series of vocalizations induced by your spinal cord for the purpose of complementing my tone of voice. If you’ve seen the meatbot, the walking automaton, the pod-people, the dense, glazy-eyed substrate through which living organisms such as myself must escape to reach air and sunlight. If you’ve realized that if speech is to be regarded as a cognitive function, technically they aren’t speaking, and you don’t have to listen.

  • jenski42

    Okay,this one might be better:I am rational, integrated, and efficacious. So far, I’ve never met a person who lives up to the standard I hold for myself (except online).I take my relationships seriously. I am simply not attracted to many of the women in this world. I do not “hook-up” with girls. I only kiss those who deserve, and so far I have only encountered one who did. I would love to find someone I can learn something from; someone who challenges me to think; someone I can feel like I’ve won, rather than lowered myself to.

  • SillyRatfacedGit

    Thanks jenski. That inspires a new middle name for Git the objectivist:SillyPretentiousGit

  • Lee Stranahan

    Jenski…That ad exactly reminds me of a guy I knew as a teen and adult – hardcore Objectivist and could NOT find a girl worth of him. Even tried to steal a girlfriend of mine because maybe she’d be worthy…but that didn’t work either. This went on for years…Until he ‘decided’ he was gay.

  • http://www.osborneink.com Matt Osborne

    I was reading the Randian dating link. This is pure cultic language:”Ayn Rand ignited the fire within me that was searching for the right spark. My every action is guided according to my philosophy, and my philosophy is the philosophy of Ayn Rand.”Not to mention purely narcissistic:”I am interested in meeting someone that truly embodies the values and virtues of Objectivism. I have found very few women that have not already been beaten down to a flimsy, irrational, empty pulp. I have changed many girls’ lives, but no one has blown me away yet.”This is pure Jonathan Barrows here:”I never “hook-up” randomly, I never kiss a girl that doesn’t deserve mine. I have yet to find a girl deserving of my falling in love with her. But “other people” are secondary values no matter what, so finding someone is not a priority for me.”

  • Kite

    The best date would be the subjective phenotype-adoring, adapting, and adulating.

  • ceu

    only if she’s worthy, kite.

  • kite

    The art is in making her want to be worthy, as only a woman can sway another woman

  • Alex

    So what happens if I like the Fountainhead but hate Atlas Shrugged?

  • SillyRatfacedGit

    I like Patricia Neal. Does that count?

  • http://rickybarnes1960.gaia.com/ Naumadd

    It’s a mistake both of non-objectivists and objectivists alike to think that Ayn Rand herself, if she were alive today, would grant a blanket defense of ALL businessmen today struggling beneath the very large thumb of government interference in what was meant to be a free marketplace. Indeed, she would be as appalled as any other at the outright fraudulent nature in which many in business conduct their affairs. No, Rand was not so much a defender of ALL business or businessmen/businesswomen, but rather an adamant defender of individuals of superior ability to create and profit from their creation of those who consistently believe in a marketplace where fair value is exchanged for fair value. She was, in fact, the harshest critic we’ve ever had of those who did not and do not believe that fair value ought to be offered in exchange for fair value and of those of lesser ability leeching off the abilities of those of superior ability. It’s fair to say, many in human culture survive precisely because of the abilities of others and not primarily because of their own. Such persons exist both outside and inside the world of business and Ayn would have criticized them all for their need not to improve their own abilities but rather to drag the superior abilities of others down to their level of weakness. I too have nothing but scathing reproach for such persons.

  • mmortal03

    The Objectivist who made the quoted statement is speaking on too idealist of grounds. He isn’t putting his theory in the best context, and so it obviously comes across as him just being a supporter of evil corporate businessmen.But I do agree with the statement to a certain extent, because it’s true that not all big businessmen have evil intentions nor did all big businessmen create this crisis, and such general attacks on this minority by certain members of the left will perpetuate this bad stereotype, that big businessmen are all evil.Therefore, the Objectivist’s statement needs certain qualifiers, just as certain statements coming out of the Obama administration need certain qualifiers.