Prime Time Thread

Yay! I’m first and my insect overlords still are denying me my Youtube!

Tonight is gun cleaning night. I will be watching “Platoon”, “Generation Kill”, “Glenn Beck”, “KO”, “Rachel”, “Pineapple Express”, or any combination of this list while cleaning out the “Men’s Locker”.

Joe, clean one for me. I used to be a gun totin’ liberal before moving here. Now all I have is a Leatherman and Buck knife.

If you haven’t read AKM’s Parable at mudflats, do so. It’s Goddamn Awesome.See http://www.themudflats.net/2009/03/29/a-bedtime-political-parable/Another good one is Gryphen at Immoral Minority. He gives more info on the Palinator’s new pick for AK AG: The more you know about Palin’s pick for Attorney General, Wayne Anthony Ross, the more often you have to fight the urge to vomit.And they still have 6 million gallons of crude oil sitting in a tank farm at the base of an active volcano waiting to be shipped. If it winds up in the inlet, they have equipment to deal with half of it. Palin is unconcerned.

If I hear of a tv being blown away during Glenn Beck I’ll know that something went badly wrong.

emsique -This is either very early or very late for you isn’t it? They’ve clogged the youtubes again?Joe -Nothing like the smell of blue steel and gun oil.

Boy, I’ve given up a lot, guns and Youtube! But the food, work, and sex is great!

Jonathan Turley rocks. Hard.He hopes Obama appoints a special prosecutor to investigate BushCo war crimes since Spain has announced an investigation and Cheney has running mouth problems bragging about torture.From his lips to Obama’a ear.

Sir Git,I meant to say this the other day, but I was called away. If you find more songs about buildings and food to play for all the little creatures, be sure that they remain in light, or else their basic fear of music will have them speaking in tongues and they will immediately stop making sense. True stories!Talking in heads ’77.

Git, it’s 8 am and I have a day off. The tubes are faster this time of day, especially on weekdays when everyone is at work or school.When something sensitive shows up on Youtube, the govt gets nervous. Huffpo seems to be permanently banned, but I really only miss Jason Linkins. Their censorship policies are pathetic anyway, not that different from here.

Curly -I heard that animals don’t worry, they’re living on nuts and berries and they’re making fools of us. But take the hiway, park, and come up and see me. I’ll be working, working, but when you come visit I’ll put down what I’m doing, cause my friends are important to me.I’m also a huge fan of Brian Eno so the Byrne and Eno album “My life in the bush of ghosts” is a favorite.emsique -I think they hire ex-stassi as moderators at HuffPo and I hardly ever comment there anymore. The folks there that I read regularly are Jason Linkins, Bob Cesca, Naomi Wolf, AK Muckraker, Shannyn Moore, and Lee Stranahan. There are others I like, but I don’t read everything they submit.

Git, it’s 8 am and I have a day off. The tubes are faster this time of day, especially on weekdays when everyone is at work or school.When something sensitive shows up on Youtube, the govt gets nervous. Huffpo seems to be permanently banned, but I really only miss Jason Linkins. Their censorship policies are pathetic anyway, not that different from here.

must be time to flush the tubes again.

Jesus, double post. How did that happen? I can’t believe the cretins you guys have on the news back there now! I’ve been here since before inauguration, so I’m a little out of the loop. It seems like the evil establishment and their press lackeys really have their panties in a wad over this uppity guy in the White House. They sound just like my dear old redneck Daddy, except they have teleprompters.

@SillyRfGit (reposting my response from the end of an earlier thread)Totally agree with you! I read the parable and am impressed by AKM’s response. Then again, I have to admit that I get a kick when someone is able to share their angst clearly, yet without swearing. I also read the original blog when she first realized that she had been ‘outed’. That too, I thought was well-written. While I have little confidence in ‘wingnut’ control, and some apprehension re their entrenched hatred, I hope that she is able to weather this without any physical harm to her, or her family.

Glenn Beck: Today’s Worst Person in the World.For his 9-12 project and the hypocrisy inherent in “reclaiming the feeling we had the day after 9-11″ when he said in 2004 “It took me about a year to start hating the families of the 9-11 victims…”

Wrut Wrow?HA!!!

Glenn Beck REALLY said he hated the families of the victims of 9/11? WTF? Blaming victims AGAIN.

vyccan -AKM is a very classy lady. I wish I could write as well as she.

Yes Ady, Glenn Beck really said that on his radio show in 2004. I saw it referenced a month or so ago somewhere. If it wasn’t Bob here, then it must have been someone at HuffPo (Linkins?) that quoted it. It might be on YouTube.

Adyleigh-Here is the relevent quote by Beck;”When you are rioting for these tickets, or these ATM cards, the second thing that came to mind was — and this is horrible to say, and I wonder if I’m alone in this — you know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims’ families? Took me about a year. And I had such compassion for them, and I really wanted to help them, and I was behind, you know, “Let’s give them money, let’s get this started.” All of this stuff. And I really didn’t — of the 3,000 victims’ families, I don’t hate all of them. Probably about 10 of them. And when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I’m just like, “Oh shut up!” I’m so sick of them because they’re always complaining. And we did our best for them. And, again, it’s only about 10.”

Man, Glenn Beck really is insane. Maybe he should start drinking again.

I think Bob Cesca quoted that Beck statement here at GDAB a while ago. Bob’s been doing a good job of digging up Beck’s hypocrisy. When Keith presented it, I knew I saw it somewhere recently.

Thanks AzDem.The 10 families that he hated were the ones that protested the Iraq war since they knew Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. “How dare they defy der Fuhrer.”

Did you guys hear about the Limbaugh challenge to liberals that came out in the LA Times yesterday?http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-klavan29-2009mar29,0,5456892.story

I just finished Bob’s book. Mr. The Cesca, I don’t know if you read the PTT much, but bravo on an incredibly well done book. Gonna go to Amazon and post a review as soon as my jaw gets off the floor.

A Question for GItheJoe: Is it a good idea to have a gun in your home? My 68 yr. old mom wants one so that she can shoot through the front door if someone tries to come in at night. I’m a little freaked about the whole thing. I’m thinking that it is more likely to be used against her…

Sorry Ken.Read your linked article suggesting liberals listen to Rush Limbaugh.No can do.My doctor has told me in no uncertain terms that if I spend more than 30 seconds listening to Rush Limbaugh, this will happen to me.

during the debates last year, I found a screenshot of the head explosion from Scanners and whenever Palin or McCain said something batshit crazy, I’d simply turn the computer screen around and show the picture to my mom. Worked better than throwing shit.

I had to listen to Limbaugh every time I went to visit my ex inlaws. And O’Reily! Really loud because they are old and have one of those Bose sound systems that every old fart in America has. He is a big mouth, racist, misogynistic, traitorous asshole! I got that from listening to him.

Can’t watch, it Packy. It is on the forbidden tube.

emsique: Rush or Bill O? That could describe either one of them. And Sean Hannity too.

emsique – It’s a head-exploding scene from “Scanners.”

Of Course, Rush is “challenging” liberals to listen to him. More listeners=higher ratings=more moolah+a younger, blonder, trophy doll for Rush!

fe, did you have to keep the exploding head on a continuous stream?

I was wondering if you all thought there was some significance to this being as Klavin is a noted author “True Crime” and “Don’t Say a Word”, or is this just nothing at all to give a second thought to?

What the hell does everyone have against Rush, anyway?Geddy Lee ROCKS!

Anyone have a thought about keeping a gun in the house? I don’t want mom to become a vigilante grandma…

nah, DP, it was a screencap like this.

minx, I would think that if your mom took some classes on how to use and care for guns, she should be okay.

evening allminx, what about an alarm system?

I was wondering if you all thought there was some significance to this being as Klavin is a noted author “True Crime” and “Don’t Say a Word”, or is this just nothing at all to give a second thought to?

Nonsense, Poopy-Pants! Everyone knows that Klavan is the loudmouth know-it-all that sits at the end of the bar with Norm and makes shit up when he doesn’t know what he’s talking about!

fe, then you had to keep it on the desktop at all times? (I’m making snark on the fact that everything they said was batshit crazy…I’m not doing too well at it, apparently).

The Minx,NOT REALLY!!!!Grandmama would be better off with a big dog than a 12 gauge shotgun.Bear Trap? Land Mine? Claymore mine?

Thanks for the thought, fe. I’m going to suggest to her that she start by going to a gun range and talking to some of the guys(or gals) that have handled guns for many years. And definitely take a course. Thanks Sweetie. BTW, you probably aren’t an Oprah mag reader, but the April issue has a great interview with Michelle Obama & another excellent article on why women who used to like men now like women! The author of the article is suggesting that sexuality in women is more fluid than we may think it is.

Ken -I will not be taking the challange. In the 90s when Rush was on TV, I watched 6 complete shows and I am well aware of the propaganda techniques that he uses to push a false conclusion.He is the master of the carefully cherry picked details. Find the little bits that support your preconceived notions and ignore the rest.Here is an example of how this technique works:Everyone has heard of the woman that was awarded a couple million dollars for being burned by McDonald’s coffee and I hear this woman being ridiculed everywhere and used as an example of why we need tort reform. This is the corporatist propaganda that results when you only provide the following information to the audience.1. Woman burns lap with McDonald’s Coffee2. Woman Sues McDonalds3. Woman wins 2 million dollars.4. Lawsuits like this are a travesty and Corporations shouldn’t have to pay up these outrageous sums.The reality was much more complicated.1. Woman burns lap with McDonald’s Coffee2. Woman spends 2 months in burn unit and winds up with $40,000 hospital bill3. Woman asks McDonald’s to pay her hospital bill, McDonald’s refuses.3. Woman sues McDonald’s for her hospital expenses.4. During trial the following interesting facts came to light.a. Three different management consultant firms warned McDonald’s management that their coffee urns were serving coffee at a ridiculously high temp of 195 F which scalds human skin instantly. This is a severe hazard and considering that they hand flimsy paper cups filled with scalding liquid to people sitting in cars there are going to be accidents at customers will be severely burned. The recommendation was to change the coffee urns to ones that serve coffee at a more reasonable 120 F.b. McDonald’s decided to keep current urns (don’t spend money) and instead instituted a written policy to pay hospital bills of customers who suffered burns. The made such payments for nearly one hundred people who got burned by McDonald’s scalding coffee. The highest bill they payed was around $12,000. The plaintiff was the first and only customer whose hospital bill they refused to pay. It was never clear why they were ignoring their own written policy.4. The jury finds for the plaintiff and awards her her hospital and court costs.5. The Jury is so outraged by the documented in writing behavior of McDonald’s management that the ask the Judge if they can award additional damages.6. The Judge tells the Jury that they may award punitive damages even though the plaintiff never asked for punitive damages.7. The Jury takes the McDonald’s documentation and figures out how much money they saved by not replacing the coffee urns and awarded that amount to the plaintiff as punitive damages. Basically the Jury decided that McDonald’s should be punished for making the decision to scald their customers and chose the amount of money they saved by making that decision as the punishment.The devil is in the details. When you know the details you can see that the tort system is working rather well unless you are a corporatist that prefers to scald customers rather than buy new coffee urns.Rush makes a living hiding details and drawing wrong conclusions from cherry picked data items. I don’t need to listen to him any more. It’s all he’s every done.

Git – Not unlike the Ford Pinto decision.For determined it was cheaper to pay the victims and families thereof than to recall and fix their pieces of shit cars.

GI, I think a big dog would be better as well, he/she would also keep her from freaking out at night when she’s alone. Mom doesn’t want the responsibility of boarding it if she comes up to visit us– I think that boarding is a small price to pay.@VeraLynn– mom gets freaked out at technology, I can just imagine her going nuts because she can’t remember “the code.”

DP: oh! yeah, I had to keep it up at all times.minx: female sexuality is way fluid.alright, other people have noticed that the opening to KO’s Oddball has a recording of Chris Matthew’s laugh, right? My mom and I have spent hours making fun of his laugh.

Rush (the Canadians) are better than ever. I was a very young stage hand in the midwest when they were on their first tour in 1976. Stacks of Marshall speaker cabinets with nothing in them. Little Fender amp hidden behind with a microphone in it. Pretty cheesy and rinky dink. Loudest PA and concert I ever heard. Even though I loved Neil Perth, I never thought they would go anywhere. I have never been so wrong, and they got really fucking awesome!

emsique – That Rush I will listen to anytime, and I’m an Teh Old.

Got some crazy fucking gun shit going on back home these days! Cost of boarding a big dog is small compared to cost of gun, license, lessons, NRA membership, subscription to Guns and Ammo, and gun club membership.And there will be no accidental shootings, or forgetting where I put that darn Smith and Wesson!

Yeah packy, rather exactly like that decision.In that one written documents showed that Ford management decided to incinerate some customers rather then increase the cost of each Pinto by $0.05.The Jury came up with the punitive damage award by multiplying the number of Pintos Ford made by the 0.05 that they saved by not fixing the problem. This came to something like $130,000,000.An appeals Judge overruled the Jury’s award and reduced it to 30,000,000. so ultimately Ford saved money by deciding to incinerate customers.That’s another that is used by disingenuous corporatist as an example of why we need tort reform. Basically they want to be able to kill/maim/injure us with defective products and we should not be able to sue. That’s the tort reform they really want.

Yes, emsique, it’s the shootings that I worry about more. I have been catching up on your blog & love the stories of your students. A question: How did you get along with your Buddhist nun mother-in-law when Yali was at her seminar (business trip?) some time ago?

A teleprompter touched me in my special place!

way to enter tonight’s thread, Redmond.

Has anyone heard of a wingnut white supremicist by the name of Hal Turner? I came upon his website and he is predicting total economic collapse & martial law by Sept. Is this guy just insane or what? He is scary…

Minx -Do you think having a gun will make your mother feel safer?If yes, then I agree with fe’s advice.There have been some home invasions in the Tampa Bay area the past few months, that may be the cause of her concern.I don’t really think she needs one, but if it makes her feel safer it is not unreasonable.

I know I haven’t been home lately, but a cnn reporter really arrested in Fargo for standing on levees of sandbags?gotta love msm and their need for a story and a picture

*but was a cnn…

I don’t know Hal Turner, but those clowns are always predicting Armageddon. I think it has something to do with guys named KiKi, gerbils named Raggot, and felching. Armageddon.

MMMMMother in law! Funny that! She is kind of old school with some odd superstitions. I had a head cold and she was sure that I was causing myself brain damage when I blew my nose. I get along well with her. However, she knows how to piss my wife off, which she did when the missus got home. Some comment about my wife’s back hurting because of our sex life. Shit hit the fan with that comment!

Fe, I knew I could come here for support.

Yes, Git, I think that she may feel safer, but I am still advocating for a dog for her. The only problem is that she likes to come up & visit for a month at a time. It’s not fair to board a dog for that long and she wouldn’t want to put out her friends by asking them to watch a dog for a month.

Hal Turner is a fascist. He thinks he’s the next Fuhrer. Marshall law is his wetdream. He thinks he and his playmates can take over the country by convincing the military to all join their nazi club. These are folks that just know that they are right, everyone else is wrong, and under the right circumstances they will get enough converts to take over.Personally, I think they are a bigger hazard to themselves than others.

the disney earth movie looks adorable!plus, the trailer song is one of my favorite songs ever.It’s kind of a slow thread, so I figure I’ll just babble.We’re here for you, Red.

Emsique, I couldn’t resist– your wife’s back was hurting because of your sex life?!? Too much or too little? Or perhaps it was the use of “toys” and “apparatus”?

I agree that a dog is a better idea Minxy.The travel situation does present a problem.

Heh. Faux News claims UAW caused all of GM’s problems. So the Union decided to build nothing but SUVs? I guess management has just been playing golf while the UAW made all of the bad decisions.At least Fixed News is consistent. They’re always wrong.

I am caught up with the days posts and cannot keep my eyes open, so I bid all of you, adieu and farewellgood evening

Thanks for the reassurance, Git, I realize that knowledge is power (being a librarian and all); that’s why I read that crap once in a while. If I read it too much, I get freaked out, which is what they want. I WILL be much more choosy with my info sources.G’Night All– Sleep Well. And, as my favorite local news anchor Jerry Taff used to say, “Better Tomorrows.”

Too much! My brain was damaged from blowing my nose and I became oversexed and injured my wife’s back due to my animal lust.

Brain fart. I typed marshall law where I meant martial law.Night all.

Animals don’t worry.They’re living on nuts and berries.They’re making fools of us.Oh ohThe PTT just lapped itselfAnimal lust.Is that like bestiality?Should I hide the llama?

Just the gerbils.

I gotta go. It’s lunch time and my wife is looking at me like I’m a total cyber bum, which I am.Rotsa ruck!

I re-watched the incident in Texas during which the moronic cop (redundant) stopped the guy who was trying to reach the woman who was dying in the hospital.Guy to pig: “I don’t know why you don’t understand this.”because he is a police officer

I wonder how many animals Disney will throw off a cliff in this next nature movie.

Okay, well, I’ll just have to admit that sometimes I watch the Soup to keep up on all the pop culture crap I don’t want to watch. And apparently the ahem… er, mother of many children whose media moniker is forbidden on this site, well, she calls 9/11 for non emergency reasons. (Kinda like John McCain’s classy brother.) So she called 9/11 to have Gloria Allred removed. And I think that’s funny.

I wonder if I can call 911 and get them to remove Rush Limbaugh.I don’t know if this story went national, but we had a woman here in FL that called 911 because Mickey D’s wouldn’t sell her any McNuggets. Apparently they ran out of McNuggets. She called two or three times. Of course she was arrested for misuse of emergency services. She insisted that her lack of McNuggets was a mother fucking emergency. The dialog was something like: “We only handle emergencies Ma’am.” “This *is* a Mother Fucking emergency.”Truth is stranger than fiction.