The Right Thing To Do

Malkin is ballyhooing the latest Rasmussen poll indicating that 58 percent of likely voters think that releasing the OLC torture memos damages national security. Malkin of course mistakenly takes this to mean that people want the president to move on and not investigate. Typically ridiculous conclusion. Firstly, the memos have already been released, and, secondly, the poll doesn’t include any numbers about investigations or prosecutions.

Though a Gallup poll from February shows that 62 percent want investigations or a commission on the Bushie torture policies. Only 34 percent are against such investigations.

Sorry, Malkin. Wrong again. By the way, if you’re suddenly interested in polls, you’ll probably want to pay attention to the right-track wrong-track numbers. Your tea party porkulus crap isn’t working.

But the dueling poll numbers appear to show that Americans are interested in accountability, even if it means harming national security. This is good news, and goes a long way towards shaking off the fear of the post-9/11 era.

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  • MatthewN

    Learn something new every day.I thought “ballyhooing” something meant being dismissive of it. When I saw it in the opposite context I had to go look it up.i’ve been wrong all these years.

  • http://www.politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com politicalpartypooper

    So my question to you, Bob, is thisAre you willing to turn this entire mess over to the International community, and make America accountable to the world?In my view, that’s the only way any prosecution will not be “tainted” by partisan politics.(Get ready to see that word again, often)

  • http://www.politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com politicalpartypooper

    I have to fix my original comment.:There.

  • http://www.bobcesca.com Bob Cesca

    >>>Are you willing to turn this entire mess over to the International community, and make America accountable to the world?Not currently, no.While we’re here, I of course support an investigation, but I worry that if it’s not handled correctly it will end up sapping some of the president’s political capital — capital that could be used on healthcare and energy, etc. I think the president is being rightfully cautious in this regard.

  • ElMystico

    Does two sentences and 36 enormous block quotes count as ballyhooing? I guess as much as anything Malkin writes…which is pretty much always two sentences and a series of enormous block quotes. She has that big pen across the top of her site like she thinks she’s a writer or something.

  • http://www.politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com politicalpartypooper

    “I think the president is being rightfully cautious in this regard.”I agree.

  • http://www.xkcd.com/ • Silly Ratfaced Git •

    PPP -I’ll repeat my statement from a previous thread. You are projecting your own dubiousness about a domestic investigation on the Europeans.You do not speak for the Europeans. I don’t either , however I read blogs in UK and DE regularly. They want us to take care of this ourselves. They will lose respect for us if we do not.I will trust a special prosecutor to do the right things provided that his name is not Kenneth Starr.You seem to assume that no professional can be trusted to follow his or her duty to the law. I’ll even accept a republican prosecutor provided he or she has a history of faithful adherence to the law. I am with the Europeans. I just want to see us conform to what our own laws demand. The Europeans don’t want to get involved because they know we have that vehemently anti-UN group of lunatics. If Europe has to seek Justice based on Treaty violations (which they will do if we do nothing), that will not be pretty.Why are Americans so fucking ignorant about what goes on with our closest allies.We are a bunch of provincial fucktards and that is why they often treat us as such.

  • http://www.xkcd.com/ • Silly Ratfaced Git •

    BTW, the Europeans began saying this after the election. The statements implied that they would give Obama six months to a years to get the ball rolling. The potential Spanish Indictments was a gentle nudge to convince Obama that the EU is serious about war crimes prosecutions. They may be keeping this out of the public eye, but it leaks from seams. Nothing in the U.S press (since we don’t give a shit about Europe), but lots of mentions in Europe.

  • AJ99

    “Your tea party porkulus crap isn’t working”http://www.rasmussenreports.com/From the your link to the Rasmussen Report I found that;60% of Americans say Government has too much power and too much money53% say that the next President will be a REPUBLICANAlso;Liberty and Tyranny still #1 on New York Times Best seller listFox News dominates all othersRush Limbaugh audience up 25% to 25 millionYour right, the crap isn’t working.

  • Nanotyrannus

    All day I’ve been feeling like our congressional leadership is just one big fucking Epic Fail on this issue. They seem to have no spine. As usual. With every revelation they trip over themselves to hold a press conference announcing they’re not going to do a damn thing about it.But there’s a part of me that thinks maybe the concept of “not right now we have other things to do” is part of a larger plan. What if they are indeed waiting for “later” as in after the 2010 midterms. What if they are waiting for a day when there are too few Republicans to obstruct a real investigation?

  • http://www.xkcd.com/ • Silly Ratfaced Git •

    AJ99 -Keep tub-thumping those talking points.Maybe someday more than the delusional 19% whackjobs will believe that nonsense.

  • AJ99

    Silly Ratfaced Git-The nice thing is you don’t have to bother with believing. Those are the results of the Rasmussen Poll. The book is the NY Times #1 best seller in it’s category. Fox does have a lock on the ratings for the news. Rush’s audience is way up. You only have to believe in something you don’t know, these items don’t require belief.You have a very nice day.

  • Alex

    Yes, Fox news is doing SO well. For cable…

  • http://www.xkcd.com/ • Silly Ratfaced Git •

    AJ99 -When you show a Quinnepiac Poll showing those results I’ll consider your point. Rasmussen has the reputation of being poll whores. “We’ll give you whatever result you want as long as you pay us.” I don’t consult whores on important topics.I wouldn’t trust a Rasmussen poll on favorite ice cream flavors.Best seller lists are often manipulated. The Cos kept Dianetics on the best seller list for decades by buying books and stacking them in wharehouses.Just because you are a gullible moron does not mean that I am.

  • http://hellodollyllama.blogspot.com/ Hello Dolly Llama

    Bob — of course people don’t want to face the reality about themselves, anymore than children like eating their broccoli. But lying to ourselves can be disastrous.Pooper — it is, in fact, possible to conduct a non-partisan investigation. If the Dems do it. Bring the GOP into the process, and we’ll get what we got with the last major GOP “nonpartisan” investigation…Kenneth Starr.AJ –1. Government has too much power and money because Bush illegally expanded the powers of the executive branch and created such fiscal chaos that we will all be paying for it for decades. You’re bragging about your own team’s titanic failures.2. Even Republicans know that Obama is a mortal lock to win reelection, and everyone to the left of Mussolini knows that the GOP has no leaders, no message, no clue. And because they are still in denial about all this, and working with might and main to throw out the centrists who pick all the presidents, it may be decades before they ever win again.3. Liberty and Tyranny, Fox etc — checkers sells more than chess. Grownups actually get the facts for themselves, instead of letting GOP scumbags do their thinking for them.4. Rush is heard all across the country because the syndicate which manages him gives his show away for free, in most of the country, in exchange for preferential deals on advertising.Sorry if I got my nasty Reality Cooties on you. Too bad if my facts are interfering with your delusions.You can get more inconvenient truths, if you like, at –http://hellodollyllama.blogspot.com/

  • http://www.xkcd.com/ ∇ Silly Ratfaced Git ∇

    Hello Dolly Llama – I like your style.