Cookies Kept Us Safe

I thought all parents knew that the best means of extracting information is by the proper utilization of Oreos and/or Pepperidge Farm cookies. Who wouldn’t spill their guts for a hand full of Oreos?

I thought all parents knew that the best means of extracting information is by the proper utilization of Oreos and/or Pepperidge Farm cookies. Who wouldn’t spill their guts for a hand full of Oreos?

Now that is awesome. Will this make right wing christian minds explode with common sense values such as “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” or “You get more flies with honey than vinegar”? What part of this will they twist?

Now that is awesome. Will this make right wing christian minds explode with common sense values such as “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” or “You get more flies with honey than vinegar”? What part of this will they twist?

Yeah, but which type of diabetes was it? Was it the healthy type I variety for which we should all strive?(sarcasm)

Yeah, but which type of diabetes was it? Was it the healthy type I variety for which we should all strive?(sarcasm)

Umm, withholding food from a diabetic would be torture, too.I found it interesting how he called that “this nice thing for him”.And here you guys thought Soufan was Mr. Nice guy.

Umm, withholding food from a diabetic would be torture, too.I found it interesting how he called that “this nice thing for him”.And here you guys thought Soufan was Mr. Nice guy.

>>What part of this will they twist?I think they will conclude that we shouldn’t be bribing terrorists with cookies because they aren’t human. They’re demons in human form, sent straight from teh Satan™.

>>What part of this will they twist?I think they will conclude that we shouldn’t be bribing terrorists with cookies because they aren’t human. They’re demons in human form, sent straight from teh Satan™.

>>Umm, withholding food from a diabetic would be torture, too.They could have given him something more basic than sugar-free cookies, which are probably quite a treat for a diabetic from a third world country.Please say you were shooting for funny.

>>Umm, withholding food from a diabetic would be torture, too.They could have given him something more basic than sugar-free cookies, which are probably quite a treat for a diabetic from a third world country.Please say you were shooting for funny.

Great! I can see the wing nuts joking that Obama’s weapons of mass destruction are oreo cookies. “Shut down the military! give the terrorists a glass of warm milk and cookies!”

Great! I can see the wing nuts joking that Obama’s weapons of mass destruction are oreo cookies. “Shut down the military! give the terrorists a glass of warm milk and cookies!”

If I were redacted to a secret CIA prsion, I would say anything for some oatmeal chocolate chip cookies.

If I were redacted to a secret CIA prsion, I would say anything for some oatmeal chocolate chip cookies.

>>, I would say anything for some oatmeal chocolate chip cookies.LOL. I will tell you of our plans to destroy the Great Satan, but first… I want some snickerdoodles! nom nom nom nom.

Umm, withholding food from a diabetic would be torture, too.No. That would just be murder.As is usual, they just used the ridiculously nebulous term ‘diabetes’ (a correct clinical diagnosis for two or more distinct diseases).If you want to kill a Type I diabetic, give them their insulin and then don’t allow them to eat. When they start raving about things that aren’t there and go into convulsions and either suffer severe brain damage or die, you might realize that this was a very stupid idea.Insulin injections are used to produce convulsions to treat sever depression as an alternative to ECT. It is called ICT, Insulin Convulsive Therapy.My guess is that he was Type II and would not be as susceptible to blood sugar extremes as type I diabetics are. The sugar free cookies would be greatly appreciated by any kind of diabetic particularly a Type II. Type II diabetics are a lot more dependent on tight diet control than are type I diabetics since type I diabetics can always take a little more insulin and eat four Oreos.Sugar Free Cookies are not really Sugar free. They are free of sucrose and dextrose. Fructose and fruit juices (more fructose) is used to sweeten them. Sorbitol, Manitol and other sweet alcohols are also used. None of these carbs become glucose instantly in your system like sucrose does. Dextrose is actually glucose by another name.

Umm, withholding food from a diabetic would be torture, too.No. That would just be murder.As is usual, they just used the ridiculously nebulous term ‘diabetes’ (a correct clinical diagnosis for two or more distinct diseases).If you want to kill a Type I diabetic, give them their insulin and then don’t allow them to eat. When they start raving about things that aren’t there and go into convulsions and either suffer severe brain damage or die, you might realize that this was a very stupid idea.Insulin injections are used to produce convulsions to treat sever depression as an alternative to ECT. It is called ICT, Insulin Convulsive Therapy.My guess is that he was Type II and would not be as susceptible to blood sugar extremes as type I diabetics are. The sugar free cookies would be greatly appreciated by any kind of diabetic particularly a Type II. Type II diabetics are a lot more dependent on tight diet control than are type I diabetics since type I diabetics can always take a little more insulin and eat four Oreos.Sugar Free Cookies are not really Sugar free. They are free of sucrose and dextrose. Fructose and fruit juices (more fructose) is used to sweeten them. Sorbitol, Manitol and other sweet alcohols are also used. None of these carbs become glucose instantly in your system like sucrose does. Dextrose is actually glucose by another name.

@ppp: he withheld food? I thought they gave him food. It’s very hard to tell from that quote, though.

@ppp: he withheld food? I thought they gave him food. It’s very hard to tell from that quote, though.

In all seriousness, if I were captured as a soldier, or kidnapped as a civilian by an enemy/organization that had a fearsome reputation for abuse and torture, getting some baklava instead of a beat-down would kind of fuck with my head a bit. I wouldn’t simply start spilling the beans, but I can imagine I would be more likely to chat about nothing of consequence.Hunter Thompson used to start writing by typing out passages of other novels. Then after a few pages or so his fingers would start writing his own words — they just needed to start moving in rhythm to get going.Maybe it’s the same with interrogation. Get a guy talking about anything, and he’ll forget about what he should or shouldn’t say…

In all seriousness, if I were captured as a soldier, or kidnapped as a civilian by an enemy/organization that had a fearsome reputation for abuse and torture, getting some baklava instead of a beat-down would kind of fuck with my head a bit. I wouldn’t simply start spilling the beans, but I can imagine I would be more likely to chat about nothing of consequence.Hunter Thompson used to start writing by typing out passages of other novels. Then after a few pages or so his fingers would start writing his own words — they just needed to start moving in rhythm to get going.Maybe it’s the same with interrogation. Get a guy talking about anything, and he’ll forget about what he should or shouldn’t say…

Mmmmm.. Me looooove Coookie!!

Mmmmm.. Me looooove Coookie!!

The question is: What did Pelosi know about these cookies, and when did she know it?I think she should probably step down if she can’t answer that.

The question is: What did Pelosi know about these cookies, and when did she know it?I think she should probably step down if she can’t answer that.

Damn!!! The word if out!!! Now the terrorist will be training their recruits to resist Oreos!

Damn!!! The word if out!!! Now the terrorist will be training their recruits to resist Oreos!

But Oreos are irresistible. It’s a tough SERE program that makes one able to resist Oreos. I can only resist them by not buying any.

But Oreos are irresistible. It’s a tough SERE program that makes one able to resist Oreos. I can only resist them by not buying any.

I don’t like oreos.

I don’t like oreos.

Oreos I can resist.. but snickerdooodles, or white chocolate chip macadamia nut and I would spill everything I knew and even make up something…lol

Oreos I can resist.. but snickerdooodles, or white chocolate chip macadamia nut and I would spill everything I knew and even make up something…lol

If I am not mistaken, Little Debbie cakes were outlawed by the Geneva Conventions……

If I am not mistaken, Little Debbie cakes were outlawed by the Geneva Conventions……

Eh…I can take or leave a cookie, but I would spill my guts and tell every damn thing I know for a pastry. My heritage demands that I behave in this manner. Hell, I can’t even sleep at night, if I know there’s an uneaten pastry in my house. (And because of this, I almost never allow myself or anybody else to bring pastries into my home).

Eh…I can take or leave a cookie, but I would spill my guts and tell every damn thing I know for a pastry. My heritage demands that I behave in this manner. Hell, I can’t even sleep at night, if I know there’s an uneaten pastry in my house. (And because of this, I almost never allow myself or anybody else to bring pastries into my home).

“Where’s the bomb, you dirty terrorist!??”"I don’t remember.”"Oh, no? Well, Pepperidge Farm remembers, punk.”"Milanooooooos!”

“Where’s the bomb, you dirty terrorist!??”"I don’t remember.”"Oh, no? Well, Pepperidge Farm remembers, punk.”"Milanooooooos!”

You could dance oreos in front of me all day long and I wouldn’t succumb, or suck my thumb, or anything else that rhymes with my bad joke.But, if you put a cow in front of me, I’d kill the sucker with my bare hands just to get the red meat. But I still wouldn’t tell them anything, in hopes of holding out for mushrooms.

You could dance oreos in front of me all day long and I wouldn’t succumb, or suck my thumb, or anything else that rhymes with my bad joke.But, if you put a cow in front of me, I’d kill the sucker with my bare hands just to get the red meat. But I still wouldn’t tell them anything, in hopes of holding out for mushrooms.

How many of you actually believe that a terrorist who would gladly strap a bomb to himself to blow himself up as well as innocent people, would just give up intelligence information for cookies.BTW the quote was “So he started talking to us instead of giving us lectures.” It does NOT indictate that “that interrogators were able to get VALUABLE information from an al-Qaeda operative using cookies.”Maybe the whole problem has been we didn’t say please.

How many of you actually believe that a terrorist who would gladly strap a bomb to himself to blow himself up as well as innocent people, would just give up intelligence information for cookies.BTW the quote was “So he started talking to us instead of giving us lectures.” It does NOT indictate that “that interrogators were able to get VALUABLE information from an al-Qaeda operative using cookies.”Maybe the whole problem has been we didn’t say please.

Son of a bitch. Cookies. Well, I’ll be a Mujaheddin’s uncle. It’s nice to have these human interest stories show up time to time.

Son of a bitch. Cookies. Well, I’ll be a Mujaheddin’s uncle. It’s nice to have these human interest stories show up time to time.

The wingnuts will simply say it’s all a lie, that being nice to a detainee is just the wimpy left’s hippy idealistic crusade for a more touchy-feely world where concrete turns to cotton candy before you fall on it and get hurt, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda.

The wingnuts will simply say it’s all a lie, that being nice to a detainee is just the wimpy left’s hippy idealistic crusade for a more touchy-feely world where concrete turns to cotton candy before you fall on it and get hurt, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I have mentioned my line of work in comments threads here before, as well as the the encounters I’ve had with hardened criminals and the like. This story is of no surprise to those who’ve had experiences similar to my own. In my experience, the more you give a patient (or perp) the opportunity to express their point of view, you’ll learn more about how they’ve always conducted themselves outside, the company they’ve kept, and, perhaps, more than you ever wanted to know about their personal experiences. I’ve never offered anyone I’ve interviewed snacks myself, but more than a few have had the luxury of bringing their own to my office. That right there is a small step to getting them to open up immensely.All this aggressive bullshit the frauds attempt to convince people works is more than likely a figment of their dull imaginations. They claim that EIT and other such nonsense is needed, but really time, patience, mutual respect (an odd consideration that I’ll explain if one asks), and clear vocalization is all that is needed in order to get anyone to open up, especially in the case of criminals eager to mouth off. The way they make these detainees sound, they’re no different from impudent teenagers, one minute giving authorities silent treatment (this goes in line with the mutual respect I refer to – see, they hold information you’re seeking), the next wondering how long they’ll stay confined without human contact (which also goes in with the respect angle – we hold info, as well).The frauds can’t hide the fact that they do not care nor are they worried about the state of mind these so-called detainees are in. That’s the folly right there, but each time they speak on how techniques like EIT helped saved lives, they never indulge info on why the men flipped, just that they did. Meanwhile, one, if using actuall brain matter, can surmise that the claims of lives being saved is bullshit on its face, and the only life these detainees saved by giving up this so-called ‘relevant info’ is their own, in light of being the captive of a bunch of madmen.I tell you with each utterance, these right-wing assholes sound more and more like they idolize the enemy they deride for political benefit here in the U.S.Anyway, blustery bastards like Scumborough and the wackadoo wanna-bes of the right ‘chicken’ wing echo chamber have no clue as to what they’re talking about concerning interrogation or mere inquisition. They are doling out their childish Cowboys and Indians-type fantasies for all the world, much less the country to see. They think it makes them look hyper masculine, but they resemble insecure adolescents. This is especially the case when you consider the fact that they not only bluster behind America’s protection, but do so in reaction to the mere suggestion of a supposed aggressor. Such pitiful little men these right-wing blowhards are.

I have mentioned my line of work in comments threads here before, as well as the the encounters I’ve had with hardened criminals and the like. This story is of no surprise to those who’ve had experiences similar to my own. In my experience, the more you give a patient (or perp) the opportunity to express their point of view, you’ll learn more about how they’ve always conducted themselves outside, the company they’ve kept, and, perhaps, more than you ever wanted to know about their personal experiences. I’ve never offered anyone I’ve interviewed snacks myself, but more than a few have had the luxury of bringing their own to my office. That right there is a small step to getting them to open up immensely.All this aggressive bullshit the frauds attempt to convince people works is more than likely a figment of their dull imaginations. They claim that EIT and other such nonsense is needed, but really time, patience, mutual respect (an odd consideration that I’ll explain if one asks), and clear vocalization is all that is needed in order to get anyone to open up, especially in the case of criminals eager to mouth off. The way they make these detainees sound, they’re no different from impudent teenagers, one minute giving authorities silent treatment (this goes in line with the mutual respect I refer to – see, they hold information you’re seeking), the next wondering how long they’ll stay confined without human contact (which also goes in with the respect angle – we hold info, as well).The frauds can’t hide the fact that they do not care nor are they worried about the state of mind these so-called detainees are in. That’s the folly right there, but each time they speak on how techniques like EIT helped saved lives, they never indulge info on why the men flipped, just that they did. Meanwhile, one, if using actuall brain matter, can surmise that the claims of lives being saved is bullshit on its face, and the only life these detainees saved by giving up this so-called ‘relevant info’ is their own, in light of being the captive of a bunch of madmen.I tell you with each utterance, these right-wing assholes sound more and more like they idolize the enemy they deride for political benefit here in the U.S.Anyway, blustery bastards like Scumborough and the wackadoo wanna-bes of the right ‘chicken’ wing echo chamber have no clue as to what they’re talking about concerning interrogation or mere inquisition. They are doling out their childish Cowboys and Indians-type fantasies for all the world, much less the country to see. They think it makes them look hyper masculine, but they resemble insecure adolescents. This is especially the case when you consider the fact that they not only bluster behind America’s protection, but do so in reaction to the mere suggestion of a supposed aggressor. Such pitiful little men these right-wing blowhards are.

While I’m pretty sure the regulars are being humorous about it just being the cookies, it’s obvious (as Lexaburn details) that the cookies were a part of the effective interrogation techniques.

Unfortunately, the wingnuts (FantasyIsland for example) will effectively lock on to the cookies as a ridiculous point to ridicule and divert discussion of the real issue again.

While I’m pretty sure the regulars are being humorous about it just being the cookies, it’s obvious (as Lexaburn details) that the cookies were a part of the effective interrogation techniques.

Unfortunately, the wingnuts (FantasyIsland for example) will effectively lock on to the cookies as a ridiculous point to ridicule and divert discussion of the real issue again.