I’m Gonna Hurl

Hardball just made me shout loud obscenities at the television.

Howard Fineman — with a straight face — said that inside-Washington conventional wisdom about Judge Sotomayor has been shaped by ridiculous attacks from Rush Limbaugh, Tom Tancredo and Glenn Beck.

I don’t really know which part enrages me more. A middle-aged establishment press guy talking about “conventional wisdom” or that the conventional wisdom came from wingnuts, racists and maniacs. Or that it’s all in the context of the president, in an interview with Brian Williams, “walking back” (sort of) the judge’s remarks about being a Latina woman. (The president defended the speech and the point Judge Sotomayor was making, however he said that in hindsight she might’ve stated it differently. Oy.)

Adding… And now Tom Tancredo is on television — again — screaming gibberish at David Shuster. I know his crazy is bad for the Republicans, but what has he done recently to win him so much airtime all over cable news? Other than being a crazy race-baiting former congressmember? Underscore “former.”

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  • mrspeel

    I agree with you and I was screaming as well!

    I REALLY wish MSNBC would just drop Fineman, Tancredo AND Buchanan from all of their programs. I especially don’t understand why David Schuster would want any of them on his program without taking them to task for their outdated ideas on how life should be in these United States. All three are living in fantasy worlds of their own ego-making and don’t contribute sanely to any conversations.

    When will MSNBC wake up?

  • mrspeel

    I agree with you and I was screaming as well!

    I REALLY wish MSNBC would just drop Fineman, Tancredo AND Buchanan from all of their programs. I especially don’t understand why David Schuster would want any of them on his program without taking them to task for their outdated ideas on how life should be in these United States. All three are living in fantasy worlds of their own ego-making and don’t contribute sanely to any conversations.

    When will MSNBC wake up?

  • http://homepage.mac.com/wildlifeweb/bird/flamingo/honolulu/flamingo01.jpg veralynn

    money. MSM creates “issues” and debates them for the infotainment factor.it boils down to money.do we need an independent press for the good of this country? yes.do we have one? not in the MSM. You must take the initiative and find the info on your own.

  • http://homepage.mac.com/wildlifeweb/bird/flamingo/honolulu/flamingo01.jpg veralynn

    money. MSM creates “issues” and debates them for the infotainment factor.it boils down to money.do we need an independent press for the good of this country? yes.do we have one? not in the MSM. You must take the initiative and find the info on your own.

  • http://nanotyrnns.blogspot.com/ Nanotyrannus

    I don’t think this is even about stopping her nomination anymore. I just think it’s about poisoning the atmosphere with anti-Obama invective. They know they can’t stop this. The crap they’re screaming about doesn’t even rise to the standard of minor scandal, much less something serious enough to derail her nomination.Nobody thinks for a second that Tom Tancredo, Mitt Romney or Buchanan is a serious threat to her nomination. I think this is just about loud noises. It’s about filling the airwaves with a lot of bullshit about whether or not Obama can effectively lead the country. He’s not keeping us safe, he’s going to socialize the country, he’s packing the court with socialist Hispanic KKK members, blah blah blah I got nothing else blah fucking blah.And for whatever reason, the media is happy to give aid and comfort to a bunch of back-bencher bullshit artists.

  • http://nanotyrnns.blogspot.com/ Nanotyrannus

    I don’t think this is even about stopping her nomination anymore. I just think it’s about poisoning the atmosphere with anti-Obama invective. They know they can’t stop this. The crap they’re screaming about doesn’t even rise to the standard of minor scandal, much less something serious enough to derail her nomination.Nobody thinks for a second that Tom Tancredo, Mitt Romney or Buchanan is a serious threat to her nomination. I think this is just about loud noises. It’s about filling the airwaves with a lot of bullshit about whether or not Obama can effectively lead the country. He’s not keeping us safe, he’s going to socialize the country, he’s packing the court with socialist Hispanic KKK members, blah blah blah I got nothing else blah fucking blah.And for whatever reason, the media is happy to give aid and comfort to a bunch of back-bencher bullshit artists.

  • ElGoddamnMystico

    My favorite part of that interview is that *most* crazy race baiting republicans when asked a direct question like, say, ‘do you think the Obama administration hates white people?’ would say ‘of course not, but…’ Tom Tancredo, on the other hand, just sits there with the gears in his brain smoking as they grind to halt, knowing he can’t say yes. But what does he decide on after the long uncomfortable pause? ‘I don’t know.’ But you know he knows what he wants to say because when he says ‘i don’t know’ he suddenly looks away. Major tell. I’d like to play poker with him sometime.

  • ElGoddamnMystico

    My favorite part of that interview is that *most* crazy race baiting republicans when asked a direct question like, say, ‘do you think the Obama administration hates white people?’ would say ‘of course not, but…’ Tom Tancredo, on the other hand, just sits there with the gears in his brain smoking as they grind to halt, knowing he can’t say yes. But what does he decide on after the long uncomfortable pause? ‘I don’t know.’ But you know he knows what he wants to say because when he says ‘i don’t know’ he suddenly looks away. Major tell. I’d like to play poker with him sometime.

  • Ady

    I had the EXACT same reaction, but a very, very, southern (okay redneck, maybe), gun lovin,’ white, conservative, 100% Obama supporter and voter, friend of mine who was eating dinner with me became so enraged that the “Three Stooges” were being discussed seriously on Hardball, that he launched into a fit of rage complete with obscenities combined in ways I’ve never even heard before, that I started laughing until I was crying and couldn’t stop.I think it’s safe to assume that if he had that type of reaction, it was pretty bad.How can the media be SO far out of touch with people and reality? It boggles my mind.

  • Ady

    I had the EXACT same reaction, but a very, very, southern (okay redneck, maybe), gun lovin,’ white, conservative, 100% Obama supporter and voter, friend of mine who was eating dinner with me became so enraged that the “Three Stooges” were being discussed seriously on Hardball, that he launched into a fit of rage complete with obscenities combined in ways I’ve never even heard before, that I started laughing until I was crying and couldn’t stop.I think it’s safe to assume that if he had that type of reaction, it was pretty bad.How can the media be SO far out of touch with people and reality? It boggles my mind.

  • Jan

    “walking back” (sort of) the judge’smy jaw fell on the floor. Who the HELL is advising Obama? He’s just added fuel to the fire now for the despicable rethugs.Where ARE the democrats? They should be out there standing up for this nominee.IAM. JUST. DISGUSTED.

  • Jan

    “walking back” (sort of) the judge’smy jaw fell on the floor. Who the HELL is advising Obama? He’s just added fuel to the fire now for the despicable rethugs.Where ARE the democrats? They should be out there standing up for this nominee.IAM. JUST. DISGUSTED.

  • Ady

    Nano, you are RIGHT ON, my friend. That’s exactly why the “Obama is an affirmative action president” shit is floating around again.

  • Ady

    Nano, you are RIGHT ON, my friend. That’s exactly why the “Obama is an affirmative action president” shit is floating around again.

  • http://homepage.mac.com/wildlifeweb/bird/flamingo/honolulu/flamingo01.jpg veralynn

    amen jan

  • http://homepage.mac.com/wildlifeweb/bird/flamingo/honolulu/flamingo01.jpg veralynn

    amen jan

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    I caught the 5pm hour and thought the same thing – why are they giving Tancredo so much face time? Because they know he’ll say something inflamatory. He’s only on when there are issues of racism or immigration to be discussed.And their breaking news on the White House “walking back” the Sotomayor quote and the chyron saying WH says it was a “poor” choice of words pissed me off until I actually saw the Obama interview clip and realized that they distorted what he said. He never used the word “poor” if I’m not mistaken, and yet that word was in quotes. Obama defended her comments as we have all done when discussing it in context of her speech. It’s just another example of the MSM stirring the shit.On a fun note, it was nice to see Shuster slapping Tancredo around a little bit. How crazy does Tancredo look when he’s asked whether he agreed with Limbaugh’s insane assessment that the Obama adminstration hates white people and he answered, “I don’t know.” What a fucking freak.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    I caught the 5pm hour and thought the same thing – why are they giving Tancredo so much face time? Because they know he’ll say something inflamatory. He’s only on when there are issues of racism or immigration to be discussed.And their breaking news on the White House “walking back” the Sotomayor quote and the chyron saying WH says it was a “poor” choice of words pissed me off until I actually saw the Obama interview clip and realized that they distorted what he said. He never used the word “poor” if I’m not mistaken, and yet that word was in quotes. Obama defended her comments as we have all done when discussing it in context of her speech. It’s just another example of the MSM stirring the shit.On a fun note, it was nice to see Shuster slapping Tancredo around a little bit. How crazy does Tancredo look when he’s asked whether he agreed with Limbaugh’s insane assessment that the Obama adminstration hates white people and he answered, “I don’t know.” What a fucking freak.

  • J

    @Jan, vera: I’m more pissed at msnbc for making such a big deal out of it. You know what? She probably would have chosen a diff. choice of words if she’d known how freaking crazy these people will be. But by putting so much attention on this comment by Obama, esp. since he backed up the actual arguemtn she was making (the one that’s been totally obscured) msnbc is just giving credence to the Repub line of attack when there is none.

  • J

    @Jan, vera: I’m more pissed at msnbc for making such a big deal out of it. You know what? She probably would have chosen a diff. choice of words if she’d known how freaking crazy these people will be. But by putting so much attention on this comment by Obama, esp. since he backed up the actual arguemtn she was making (the one that’s been totally obscured) msnbc is just giving credence to the Repub line of attack when there is none.

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Jan, the Dems are defending her. It’s just few and far between on the television machine because it’s not as exciting and controversial as getting a racist to rail against Sotomayor. That’s ratings gold!

  • http://www.broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Jan, the Dems are defending her. It’s just few and far between on the television machine because it’s not as exciting and controversial as getting a racist to rail against Sotomayor. That’s ratings gold!

  • J

    @Bway Carl: I think the “poor choice” actually came from Robert Gibbs in the presser today, which frankly makes msnbc’s framing of the Obama interview even more annoying.

  • J

    @Bway Carl: I think the “poor choice” actually came from Robert Gibbs in the presser today, which frankly makes msnbc’s framing of the Obama interview even more annoying.

  • Ady

    How did President Obama “walk back” the Judge’s remarks? They’re TELLING us he “walked them back”, but I didn’t hear it like that at all.

  • Ady

    How did President Obama “walk back” the Judge’s remarks? They’re TELLING us he “walked them back”, but I didn’t hear it like that at all.

  • Ady

    The Dems are defending her, but I have a feeling they’re gonna let the Republicans continue to alienate even more Hispanics and women before they get out there and push back in full force.Nano’s right. This isn’t about the Judge anyway. It’s about stirring up some fresh “Obama Hate” for 2010 and 2012.

  • Ady

    The Dems are defending her, but I have a feeling they’re gonna let the Republicans continue to alienate even more Hispanics and women before they get out there and push back in full force.Nano’s right. This isn’t about the Judge anyway. It’s about stirring up some fresh “Obama Hate” for 2010 and 2012.

  • Jan

    Maybe the dems are just sitting back and watching the show and let the rethugs hang themselves. But it’s getting way out of hand with the racist and now gender bashing. Libby even said something about her monthly cycle and her decision making ability during that time of the month.wow. How low can they go. Happily she will be confirmed so we don’t have to see Tancredo anymore. They all can go back under their rock.

  • Jan

    Maybe the dems are just sitting back and watching the show and let the rethugs hang themselves. But it’s getting way out of hand with the racist and now gender bashing. Libby even said something about her monthly cycle and her decision making ability during that time of the month.wow. How low can they go. Happily she will be confirmed so we don’t have to see Tancredo anymore. They all can go back under their rock.

  • http://homepage.mac.com/wildlifeweb/bird/flamingo/honolulu/flamingo01.jpg veralynn, goddammit

    they could jan, but will they?

  • http://homepage.mac.com/wildlifeweb/bird/flamingo/honolulu/flamingo01.jpg veralynn, goddammit

    they could jan, but will they?

  • http://www.osborneink.com Matt Osborne

    At this point, the wingnuts are just exercising their right to crap cages out of sheer powerlessness. I mean, this whole debate is going to look utterly irrelevant when she sails through the Senate.Long-term, of course, they’re creating the “Lost Cause” mythology for a future generation of conservatards. These are people who think FDR caused the Great Depression, after all.

  • http://www.osborneink.com Matt Osborne

    At this point, the wingnuts are just exercising their right to crap cages out of sheer powerlessness. I mean, this whole debate is going to look utterly irrelevant when she sails through the Senate.Long-term, of course, they’re creating the “Lost Cause” mythology for a future generation of conservatards. These are people who think FDR caused the Great Depression, after all.

  • shaddomagg

    Bob, Bob, Bob (and all who follow him)…if there is something I’ve learned in my life (and at 53, I’m about half way through, yep!) is that you can’t ever ever try to figure out crazy!! Everytime you do, it just adds another rock to the pile…that is, you get crazy, too! Having said that…I look at your blog every day and hope like hell there are marginally sane right-wingnuts(I know, that’s a contradiction in terms) who will eventually get it. Just report it…don’t try to figure out. You’ll be better for it.

  • shaddomagg

    Bob, Bob, Bob (and all who follow him)…if there is something I’ve learned in my life (and at 53, I’m about half way through, yep!) is that you can’t ever ever try to figure out crazy!! Everytime you do, it just adds another rock to the pile…that is, you get crazy, too! Having said that…I look at your blog every day and hope like hell there are marginally sane right-wingnuts(I know, that’s a contradiction in terms) who will eventually get it. Just report it…don’t try to figure out. You’ll be better for it.

  • http://arkytek.blogspot.com/ ∇•B=0  Goddamn Silly Ratfaced Git  ∇•D=ρ

    Tancredo is not just a race baiter. He is an outright racist.Notice that the racists doing all the talking won’t be losing any elections because they won’t be running. DeLay, Limbaugh, Liddy, Tancredo, Buchanan. None will be running.They are on fire and I advocate putting them out with gasoline. Make burn nice and hot. They are showing the GOP for what it has become – a collection of hateful misogynist racist bigots. All nasty old white men, all the time. No brown people wanted.The GOP will be lucky if they get a single hispanic vote before 2029.

  • http://arkytek.blogspot.com/ ∇•B=0  Goddamn Silly Ratfaced Git  ∇•D=ρ

    Tancredo is not just a race baiter. He is an outright racist.Notice that the racists doing all the talking won’t be losing any elections because they won’t be running. DeLay, Limbaugh, Liddy, Tancredo, Buchanan. None will be running.They are on fire and I advocate putting them out with gasoline. Make burn nice and hot. They are showing the GOP for what it has become – a collection of hateful misogynist racist bigots. All nasty old white men, all the time. No brown people wanted.The GOP will be lucky if they get a single hispanic vote before 2029.

  • 24hourjack

    what has tancredo done to “win so much airtime” on cable news?you answered your own question.the more crazy and race baiter-ish he behaves ,the more airtime he gets.credibilty,common sense,intelligent discourse on a given topic etc…these things are mostly irrelevant in the world of cable news.if these were the traits which gained pundits more airtime 3/4 of all of them would immediately be disqualified.

  • 24hourjack

    what has tancredo done to “win so much airtime” on cable news?you answered your own question.the more crazy and race baiter-ish he behaves ,the more airtime he gets.credibilty,common sense,intelligent discourse on a given topic etc…these things are mostly irrelevant in the world of cable news.if these were the traits which gained pundits more airtime 3/4 of all of them would immediately be disqualified.

  • http://blancadebree.blogspot.com Blanca DeBree

    La Raza is racist, just like the NAACP. Until minorities decide to live just like all of us normal white people, any organization celebrating diversity and promoting the well-being of a minority group will be racist.Can’t we all just get along by being exactly the same? That is, rich, white, male, and a sycophantic fan of Rush Limbaugh?

  • http://blancadebree.blogspot.com Blanca DeBree

    La Raza is racist, just like the NAACP. Until minorities decide to live just like all of us normal white people, any organization celebrating diversity and promoting the well-being of a minority group will be racist.Can’t we all just get along by being exactly the same? That is, rich, white, male, and a sycophantic fan of Rush Limbaugh?