The Cheney Files

Senator Levin has seen the Cheney Family files that allegedly “prove” torture saved lives. The files don’t prove any such thing, of course. Senator Levin:

Mr. Cheney has also claimed that the release of classified documents would prove his view that the techniques worked. But those classified documents say nothing about numbers of lives saved, nor do the documents connect acquisition of valuable intelligence to the use of the abusive techniques. I hope that the documents are declassified so that people can judge for themselves what is fact and what is fiction.

I agree with Levin who agrees with the Cheneys. Let’s see the documents. While we’re at it, what about any documents pertaining to, say, Cheney and Rumsfeld authorizing the atrocities at Abu Ghraib? Let’s see those, too, if they’re out there.

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  • http://arkytek.blogspot.com/ ∇•B=0  Goddamn Silly Ratfaced Git  ∇•D=ρ

    Everyone should realize that Cheney lies. All the time. About everything. It’s what he does. It’s what he’s always done.Anyone that believes anything this criminal says is ignoring reality. All evidence indicates that if he says anything, the opposite is true.We’ve already heard from about five people that are in a position to know that the EITs did not produce any useful intel. All they produced were a phony link of Iraq to 9-11. Cheney considers that to be useful intel. I don’t consider fairy tales to be useful intel, he does.Rumsfeld ordered the atrocities at Abu Ghraib. There is little question of that.Cheney and Rumsfeld belong in a courtroom answering for their war crimes.War Crimes are not ‘a difference in policy.’ They are criminal acts. Policy that produces criminal acts is called criminal conspiracy, not public policy. The Bush Administration was a criminal conspiracy.

  • http://arkytek.blogspot.com/ ∇•B=0  Goddamn Silly Ratfaced Git  ∇•D=ρ

    Everyone should realize that Cheney lies. All the time. About everything. It’s what he does. It’s what he’s always done.Anyone that believes anything this criminal says is ignoring reality. All evidence indicates that if he says anything, the opposite is true.We’ve already heard from about five people that are in a position to know that the EITs did not produce any useful intel. All they produced were a phony link of Iraq to 9-11. Cheney considers that to be useful intel. I don’t consider fairy tales to be useful intel, he does.Rumsfeld ordered the atrocities at Abu Ghraib. There is little question of that.Cheney and Rumsfeld belong in a courtroom answering for their war crimes.War Crimes are not ‘a difference in policy.’ They are criminal acts. Policy that produces criminal acts is called criminal conspiracy, not public policy. The Bush Administration was a criminal conspiracy.

  • brutlygoddamnhonest

    The Cheney tour is all about making prosecuting him and the others more difficult and painful. It;s a perception management campaign designed to convince the average joe that it isn’t about the law, but about politics.

    He really is an evil genius.

  • brutlygoddamnhonest

    The Cheney tour is all about making prosecuting him and the others more difficult and painful. It;s a perception management campaign designed to convince the average joe that it isn’t about the law, but about politics.

    He really is an evil genius.

  • Sierradrinker

    They aren’t EITs, they are torture tactics.

  • Sierradrinker

    They aren’t EITs, they are torture tactics.

  • Zac

    Please fix your tags here, Bob. Our good Senator from Michigan is Carl Levin, not the odious Mark Levin. I think this state has suffered enough without being associated with him.

  • Zac

    Please fix your tags here, Bob. Our good Senator from Michigan is Carl Levin, not the odious Mark Levin. I think this state has suffered enough without being associated with him.

  • http://www.osborneink.com Matt Osborne

    Levin came as close as I’ve seen to calling Cheney a liar. And yes, every last word that came out of Cheney’s mouth the other day was a lie, including ‘and’ and ‘the.’We really need to see this little word — “liar” — break out into the MSM. LIAR. Cheney is a LIAR who tells LIES. LIE, LIE, LIE, that’s all he does…

  • http://www.osborneink.com Matt Osborne

    Levin came as close as I’ve seen to calling Cheney a liar. And yes, every last word that came out of Cheney’s mouth the other day was a lie, including ‘and’ and ‘the.’We really need to see this little word — “liar” — break out into the MSM. LIAR. Cheney is a LIAR who tells LIES. LIE, LIE, LIE, that’s all he does…

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Wait a minute. Is Carl Levin calling Dick Cheney a liar? I. Am. Shocked.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    Wait a minute. Is Carl Levin calling Dick Cheney a liar? I. Am. Shocked.

  • http://arkytek.blogspot.com/ ∇•B=0  Goddamn Silly Ratfaced Git  ∇•D=ρ

    Wow. Pat Buchanan just had a ‘fit’ on MSNBC. The rabid weasel was foaming at the mouth with his hatred of Sotomayor. He ranted about every TP we have heard which are all cherry-picked bullshit and screamed over the fellow who was taking him to task for his context ignoring cherry-picked propaganda extravaganza. Pat decided to start calling her all sorts of things. I thought he was going to call her a spic bitch, but he thought better of that. It was quite a display of racial bigotry gone wild.I hope that Tweety has him on Hardball up against Lawrence O’Donnell who stands a better chance of getting him to slip up and display what a racist, fascist scumbag he is for all the world to see with no ambiguity. I always knew that Buchanan was a racist, but I never realized until now just how much he actually hates people that are not just like himself. Unbelievable. He should have been wearing his Klan robes.

  • http://arkytek.blogspot.com/ ∇•B=0  Goddamn Silly Ratfaced Git  ∇•D=ρ

    Wow. Pat Buchanan just had a ‘fit’ on MSNBC. The rabid weasel was foaming at the mouth with his hatred of Sotomayor. He ranted about every TP we have heard which are all cherry-picked bullshit and screamed over the fellow who was taking him to task for his context ignoring cherry-picked propaganda extravaganza. Pat decided to start calling her all sorts of things. I thought he was going to call her a spic bitch, but he thought better of that. It was quite a display of racial bigotry gone wild.I hope that Tweety has him on Hardball up against Lawrence O’Donnell who stands a better chance of getting him to slip up and display what a racist, fascist scumbag he is for all the world to see with no ambiguity. I always knew that Buchanan was a racist, but I never realized until now just how much he actually hates people that are not just like himself. Unbelievable. He should have been wearing his Klan robes.

  • http://www.colorado-yardening.com Peter

    O f course let’s see the docs showing that Cheney and Rumsfeld approved of torture. What are they so afraid of? After all, if it really made us safe they should be given full credit for it and then tried before a court of law.Speeding is speeding, regardless of the reasons you have for speeding.

  • http://www.colorado-yardening.com Peter

    O f course let’s see the docs showing that Cheney and Rumsfeld approved of torture. What are they so afraid of? After all, if it really made us safe they should be given full credit for it and then tried before a court of law.Speeding is speeding, regardless of the reasons you have for speeding.

  • D. C.

    Git.Crazy Uncle Pat has certainly got his racist on this weekend. In recent years, he’d actually started to sound, well, not “reasonable” or even “sane”, but at least no so much of the foaming in the mouth racist that he’d been in the past. Now, he sounds absolutely terrified at the very thought of a Latino on the bench.

  • D. C.

    Git.Crazy Uncle Pat has certainly got his racist on this weekend. In recent years, he’d actually started to sound, well, not “reasonable” or even “sane”, but at least no so much of the foaming in the mouth racist that he’d been in the past. Now, he sounds absolutely terrified at the very thought of a Latino on the bench.