I will call in if Bob promises to repeat everything I say for Lee (he’s ignoring me).
http://www.thenewwearsoff.com goddamnkyle
I will call in if Bob promises to repeat everything I say for Lee (he’s ignoring me).
ElGoddamnMystico
Slow night…Who else is super pissed to discover that there was a topless coffee shop in Maine only after it burned down? Tits and coffee, what else do you need? But no more.
ElGoddamnMystico
Slow night…Who else is super pissed to discover that there was a topless coffee shop in Maine only after it burned down? Tits and coffee, what else do you need? But no more.
Lee seems to want to fight tonight.. Not sure why.. then when someone actually wants to have a serious civil discussion that isn’t good enough, he wants to make it an argument.
Hey all you NCer’s…what do you think of our state offering $46 Billion worth of tax breaks for Apple? They will get these tax breaks for investing $1 Billion and hiring 50 full time employees.Am I the only one who thinks this is not a good deal for the state or am I just nuts?
Hey all you NCer’s…what do you think of our state offering $46 Billion worth of tax breaks for Apple? They will get these tax breaks for investing $1 Billion and hiring 50 full time employees.Am I the only one who thinks this is not a good deal for the state or am I just nuts?
dontpanic23♠
Thanks, Kat. If it isn’t obvious or NFL I generally assume hockey first. Until you said lacrosse I thought hockey was the one I knew the least about. I’ll throw out a manly sounding growl in support of Carl.
dontpanic23♠
Thanks, Kat. If it isn’t obvious or NFL I generally assume hockey first. Until you said lacrosse I thought hockey was the one I knew the least about. I’ll throw out a manly sounding growl in support of Carl.
Doesn’t sound like a deal to me, sounds like a crock of hooey…lolI love that article.. do we have a cool President or what.. I hadn’t looked at TPC lately.. been here for a while.. thanks for pointing that out.
Doesn’t sound like a deal to me, sounds like a crock of hooey…lolI love that article.. do we have a cool President or what.. I hadn’t looked at TPC lately.. been here for a while.. thanks for pointing that out.
dontpanic23♠
Uh, oh. Somebody call Wolfe Tone. The FSM is being singled out Over There. He’s gonna get his noodle way outta joint over this.
dontpanic23♠
Uh, oh. Somebody call Wolfe Tone. The FSM is being singled out Over There. He’s gonna get his noodle way outta joint over this.
Carl-I posted an Kos article that estimates the cost of shrub’s plane trips for his vacations, in case you haven’t seen it on FB.
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>Uh, oh. Somebody call Wolfe Tone. The FSM is being singled out Over There.I believe that Git is a Pastafarian too.
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>Uh, oh. Somebody call Wolfe Tone. The FSM is being singled out Over There.I believe that Git is a Pastafarian too.
http://hugetinymistake.wordpress.com chris
I see you’re going to discuss Pat Buchanan. Why the HELL does MSNBC shove his tired tripe down our throats? Do they need to keep him on to ward off those who want to dismiss them as the ‘liberal’ network? Don’t they have Scarborough for that already?
http://hugetinymistake.wordpress.com chris
I see you’re going to discuss Pat Buchanan. Why the HELL does MSNBC shove his tired tripe down our throats? Do they need to keep him on to ward off those who want to dismiss them as the ‘liberal’ network? Don’t they have Scarborough for that already?
VeraThat deal for Apple is probably good for NC. You have Lenovo, RedHat, and Apple with significant presence in Research Triangle. Without those sort of deals the jobs will go to India or equiv. Fifty hightech jobs for Americans is nothing to sneezw at.
VeraThat deal for Apple is probably good for NC. You have Lenovo, RedHat, and Apple with significant presence in Research Triangle. Without those sort of deals the jobs will go to India or equiv. Fifty hightech jobs for Americans is nothing to sneezw at.
But for almost a billion for each? I agree we need the jobs and the area they are thinking about has been depressed economically for a long time. I am sensitive to this because we did the same thing for Phillip Morris 20 years ago. We gave them basically a tax free deal for 20 years, well when that 20 is almost up, what do they do? Announce they will be shutting down the plant and moving everything to Richmond. They announced this at the end of last year, they would be leaving by the end of 2010. Then about 2 months ago, they are closing by the end of July 2009.I agree we should be giving them some sort of deal, but I would like a little more for the state than what we offered them. Although I haven’t heard if there is a time frame like PM had. If anyone knows more, please advise. I really would like to feel better about this whole thing.
But for almost a billion for each? I agree we need the jobs and the area they are thinking about has been depressed economically for a long time. I am sensitive to this because we did the same thing for Phillip Morris 20 years ago. We gave them basically a tax free deal for 20 years, well when that 20 is almost up, what do they do? Announce they will be shutting down the plant and moving everything to Richmond. They announced this at the end of last year, they would be leaving by the end of 2010. Then about 2 months ago, they are closing by the end of July 2009.I agree we should be giving them some sort of deal, but I would like a little more for the state than what we offered them. Although I haven’t heard if there is a time frame like PM had. If anyone knows more, please advise. I really would like to feel better about this whole thing.
Vera -If Apple shuts down in NC and moves it all to India there will be a much larger than 46 billion tax revenue hole to fill.50 hightech employees spend their entire salary in NC and pay taxes in NC.This is an expansion for Apple. They already have plants in Mexico, India, China, and I don’t know where else. Without the tax breaks they’ll hire 50 more in India instead of 50 more in NC.Note that the 46 billion is not 46 billion that the state was going to get. It was 46 billion the state was going to get if the 50 employees were added in NC. If Apple adds the jobs in India, the 46 billion wasn’t going to happen anyway.
Vera -If Apple shuts down in NC and moves it all to India there will be a much larger than 46 billion tax revenue hole to fill.50 hightech employees spend their entire salary in NC and pay taxes in NC.This is an expansion for Apple. They already have plants in Mexico, India, China, and I don’t know where else. Without the tax breaks they’ll hire 50 more in India instead of 50 more in NC.Note that the 46 billion is not 46 billion that the state was going to get. It was 46 billion the state was going to get if the 50 employees were added in NC. If Apple adds the jobs in India, the 46 billion wasn’t going to happen anyway.
Yeah but most of the time it is…I really love Jon Stewart.
fe
man, I left for a while.Annette, you’re still somewhat new here, so let me clarify: Lee Stranahan has the habit of posting purposely controversial posts, arguing with people while claiming that he only wanted a discussion, changing his original argument in the middle of an argument and claiming that it was always his new argument, and comparing most of the commenters and Bob himself to Rush Limbaugh.
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man, I left for a while.Annette, you’re still somewhat new here, so let me clarify: Lee Stranahan has the habit of posting purposely controversial posts, arguing with people while claiming that he only wanted a discussion, changing his original argument in the middle of an argument and claiming that it was always his new argument, and comparing most of the commenters and Bob himself to Rush Limbaugh.
Yes, fe, I have finally figured out some of the players.. thank you for explaining that to me, I thought that was the case..I have also seen this same thing with some of the others here. lol
Yes, fe, I have finally figured out some of the players.. thank you for explaining that to me, I thought that was the case..I have also seen this same thing with some of the others here. lol