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are we watching the good cartoons or the crap they have on now?

are we watching the good cartoons or the crap they have on now?

I guess Rush didn’t get his talking points faxed to him today. All he could muster about Obama’s speech was to say he threw Israel under the bus and read right wing blog reactions. At least that’s what I’m told by a source. I can’t stand iistening to him personally.

I guess Rush didn’t get his talking points faxed to him today. All he could muster about Obama’s speech was to say he threw Israel under the bus and read right wing blog reactions. At least that’s what I’m told by a source. I can’t stand iistening to him personally.

Carl did you see the link I posted last night on FB regarding the cost of shrub’s vacations? Also, DP put it in perspective for me, the amount of time he spent on vacation. She said the amount of time is almost the entire JFK administration. I knew it was a lot, but comparatively, just blows my mind.

Carl did you see the link I posted last night on FB regarding the cost of shrub’s vacations? Also, DP put it in perspective for me, the amount of time he spent on vacation. She said the amount of time is almost the entire JFK administration. I knew it was a lot, but comparatively, just blows my mind.

Just watching the clip of Liz Cheyney on MSNBC earlier. I have a new drinking game. Take a drink every time she says “I find it troubling”. Seriously, you’ll be smacked before you know it.Next time she is on TV, I hope the person asking questions asks her ‘Tell me again why you are on TV?”. Is there really any difference between her and the 26 year old son of Kim Jong-Il?

Just watching the clip of Liz Cheyney on MSNBC earlier. I have a new drinking game. Take a drink every time she says “I find it troubling”. Seriously, you’ll be smacked before you know it.Next time she is on TV, I hope the person asking questions asks her ‘Tell me again why you are on TV?”. Is there really any difference between her and the 26 year old son of Kim Jong-Il?

What about cartoons of Muhammad?

What about cartoons of Muhammad?

@mattp…wtfRight on. Why is that silly person Liz Chyney) still appearing on this 22″ by 36″ junkyard in my living room?It just reinforces my long-time goal of being able to choose the one or two or three channels i really want to watch…. without surfing between commercials.TV sucks.

@mattp…wtfRight on. Why is that silly person Liz Chyney) still appearing on this 22″ by 36″ junkyard in my living room?It just reinforces my long-time goal of being able to choose the one or two or three channels i really want to watch…. without surfing between commercials.TV sucks.

When Obama’s speech ended (the live version) this morning, Liz Cheney was the first person MSNBC called on for a reaction. Unbelievable. Were they expecting her to say “ya know, he’s right. By god, I LIKE this guy!”?

When Obama’s speech ended (the live version) this morning, Liz Cheney was the first person MSNBC called on for a reaction. Unbelievable. Were they expecting her to say “ya know, he’s right. By god, I LIKE this guy!”?

How was New York?

How was New York?

New York was great. Thanks for filling in today, Lee!

New York was great. Thanks for filling in today, Lee!

Why is 1 trillion dollars over a 10 year period for healthcare such a big deal, but 3 trillion over 5 years for invading Iraq and Afghanistan is A-ok?

Why is 1 trillion dollars over a 10 year period for healthcare such a big deal, but 3 trillion over 5 years for invading Iraq and Afghanistan is A-ok?

Adding… Hmm. No one else hanging out in the open threads anymore?

Adding… Hmm. No one else hanging out in the open threads anymore?

vera – didn’t see your link. I’ll check it out now.Liz Cheney was the go-to person for MSNBC?! Damned liberal media!

vera – didn’t see your link. I’ll check it out now.Liz Cheney was the go-to person for MSNBC?! Damned liberal media!

I’m just now getting around to an assessment of conservative reactions to Obama’s speech, dividing them up into the three familiar categories. Is it just me, or is Faux Noise coming across as more and more desperate? They just make shit up anymore.

I’m just now getting around to an assessment of conservative reactions to Obama’s speech, dividing them up into the three familiar categories. Is it just me, or is Faux Noise coming across as more and more desperate? They just make shit up anymore.

Some of us has lost our innernets connections until we pay Evil Time Warners a lot of money, and can only lurk (or take hours to comment) via our phone. Not naming names.

Some of us has lost our innernets connections until we pay Evil Time Warners a lot of money, and can only lurk (or take hours to comment) via our phone. Not naming names.

If fucking figures that Fixed News would go that route. I’m expecting Hannity, Rush et al to continue that route. I suppose they couldn’t stomach watching the speech so they took a transcript and did a wrd search for “terror.” It wasn’t Rush because he apparently doesn’ know HOW to do a word search.Nope, no “terror”.”Al-Qaeda” 3 times.”Extremists” 9 times.”Extremism” twice.”9/11″ twice.”Afghanistan” 5 times.But no “terror.” Why is he avoiding talking about terrorism?!

If fucking figures that Fixed News would go that route. I’m expecting Hannity, Rush et al to continue that route. I suppose they couldn’t stomach watching the speech so they took a transcript and did a wrd search for “terror.” It wasn’t Rush because he apparently doesn’ know HOW to do a word search.Nope, no “terror”.”Al-Qaeda” 3 times.”Extremists” 9 times.”Extremism” twice.”9/11″ twice.”Afghanistan” 5 times.But no “terror.” Why is he avoiding talking about terrorism?!

Faux has just given up totally on facts. They just make shit up. They take the real story, filter out the one or two bits of stuff they need (Obama speaks, to Middle East Muslims) and then just make shit up to suit whatever surreal vision they are hallucinating this moment.Example: Obama spoke today to Middle Eastern Muslims. He told them that Islam rulz and Israel is teh sux0r. Obama is an evil communist fascist muslim whose going to steal your guns and your firstborn.

Faux has just given up totally on facts. They just make shit up. They take the real story, filter out the one or two bits of stuff they need (Obama speaks, to Middle East Muslims) and then just make shit up to suit whatever surreal vision they are hallucinating this moment.Example: Obama spoke today to Middle Eastern Muslims. He told them that Islam rulz and Israel is teh sux0r. Obama is an evil communist fascist muslim whose going to steal your guns and your firstborn.

Others of us are trying to catch up on 7 years of missed West Wings. Yes, I missed it. If something wasn’t on MSNBC the tv was off. I’m a changed person now.

Others of us are trying to catch up on 7 years of missed West Wings. Yes, I missed it. If something wasn’t on MSNBC the tv was off. I’m a changed person now.

HA! Did you catch Oddball on Countdown?? the last included grown men trotting thru a warehouse on hobbyhorses….hobbyunicorns, actually! Pink ones!

HA! Did you catch Oddball on Countdown?? the last included grown men trotting thru a warehouse on hobbyhorses….hobbyunicorns, actually! Pink ones!

How far along are you DP?

How far along are you DP?

Ceu – Yeah I saw that, pretty funny.

Ceu – Yeah I saw that, pretty funny.

Josh just started campaigning with Santos working toward NH primary. President Bartlet had the awful MS paralysis in China. Not long after Donna’s injuries in Gaza and Leo’s heart attack. Maybe season late 6, early 7? I’m also downloading it all on bittorrent which makes it take 3 minutes to post anything here or elsewhere when running it–several weeks so far, 700GB per season and have to stop when kid plays his game or we blow the router’s mind and both our efforts.

Josh just started campaigning with Santos working toward NH primary. President Bartlet had the awful MS paralysis in China. Not long after Donna’s injuries in Gaza and Leo’s heart attack. Maybe season late 6, early 7? I’m also downloading it all on bittorrent which makes it take 3 minutes to post anything here or elsewhere when running it–several weeks so far, 700GB per season and have to stop when kid plays his game or we blow the router’s mind and both our efforts.

Oh, the empathetic Jeff Sessions.http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/04/sessions-crying-child/

Oh, the empathetic Jeff Sessions.http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/04/sessions-crying-child/

This is the second time someone has mentioned bittorrent…..excuse my ignorance, but what is it?

This is the second time someone has mentioned bittorrent…..excuse my ignorance, but what is it?

Where the pink unicorns of the invisible variety?

Where the pink unicorns of the invisible variety?

*were (goddamnit)

*were (goddamnit)

“if we really were running a liberal media, who in the world would be dumb enough to book Liz Cheney on every show except Wheel of Fortune?” ~ Olbermann

“if we really were running a liberal media, who in the world would be dumb enough to book Liz Cheney on every show except Wheel of Fortune?” ~ Olbermann

no, actually, they were exactly like the one I gave my daughter for her 18th birthday!

no, actually, they were exactly like the one I gave my daughter for her 18th birthday!

Vera – Bit Torrent is a peer to peer file sharing program.

Vera – Bit Torrent is a peer to peer file sharing program.

What is BitTorrent?

What is BitTorrent?

so like napster used to be? is it safe?

so like napster used to be? is it safe?

ceu-I used to work for a fork lift company and we had those races, they were really fun. We did not have pink horses or unicorns, which now, seems very wrong.

ceu-I used to work for a fork lift company and we had those races, they were really fun. We did not have pink horses or unicorns, which now, seems very wrong.

That’s all I know. I don’t use it. DP, is it safe?

That’s all I know. I don’t use it. DP, is it safe?

The Invisible Pink Unicorn (IPU) is really the best deity ever. She (Yes, She is Pink, She is a she. Both male and female unicorn have horns.) never interferes with anything we do but is always willing to listen. She created the universe nine billion years ago by triggering the big bang and has been watching ever since. She created all of this because she was lacking in entertainment. Forever gets boring.The IPU never interferes. It’s completely up to us to deal. She told me once “Hey, I created all this shit so that you could do whatever you want with it. I not telling you what to do. Surprise me. Deal with it.”The IPU came with no scripture, no medieval baggage based on shit that stopped being relevant a millennium ago. The IPU has no incompatibility with science because all she did was trigger the big bang, pick values for physical constants then stood back and watched. The dinosaurs were real. The earth is really six billion years old. Evolution produced unlikely life forms like ourselves, slime mold, and Michael Jackson.Lee says I an insane for believing in the IPU.I say Lee is insane for not believing in the IPU.Lee is obviously the real religion bigot around here.I’ve never murdered doctors because the IPU told me to. The IPU would never make such a horrible suggestion. She listens, she sometimes gives advice, but she never suggests or commands a course of action.I am very happy with my faith. I won’t bother any of you with it again unless I am asked.

The Invisible Pink Unicorn (IPU) is really the best deity ever. She (Yes, She is Pink, She is a she. Both male and female unicorn have horns.) never interferes with anything we do but is always willing to listen. She created the universe nine billion years ago by triggering the big bang and has been watching ever since. She created all of this because she was lacking in entertainment. Forever gets boring.The IPU never interferes. It’s completely up to us to deal. She told me once “Hey, I created all this shit so that you could do whatever you want with it. I not telling you what to do. Surprise me. Deal with it.”The IPU came with no scripture, no medieval baggage based on shit that stopped being relevant a millennium ago. The IPU has no incompatibility with science because all she did was trigger the big bang, pick values for physical constants then stood back and watched. The dinosaurs were real. The earth is really six billion years old. Evolution produced unlikely life forms like ourselves, slime mold, and Michael Jackson.Lee says I an insane for believing in the IPU.I say Lee is insane for not believing in the IPU.Lee is obviously the real religion bigot around here.I’ve never murdered doctors because the IPU told me to. The IPU would never make such a horrible suggestion. She listens, she sometimes gives advice, but she never suggests or commands a course of action.I am very happy with my faith. I won’t bother any of you with it again unless I am asked.

BitTorrent technology itself is plenty safe.The only unsafe part of it is is some of the unscrupulous torrent search websites. If you don’t watch your step you may get malware or spyware.For the most part though its safe.Vera – Its not exactly like naptster but it is similar in basic function. Its sort of like napster without the middle man. You connect directly to other people with the files you’re looking for whom are sharing it.

BitTorrent technology itself is plenty safe.The only unsafe part of it is is some of the unscrupulous torrent search websites. If you don’t watch your step you may get malware or spyware.For the most part though its safe.Vera – Its not exactly like naptster but it is similar in basic function. Its sort of like napster without the middle man. You connect directly to other people with the files you’re looking for whom are sharing it.

BitTorrent is pretty safe. No one person rovides the download. You download chunks from a swarm of sites. They make it very hard for the RIAA to spy on things.If you are on windows the client that most people use is uTorrent (microtorrent).I’m on Linux so I use the real bitTorrent package which is written in python. You could run the real bitTorrent on windows but you’d have to install python.

BitTorrent is pretty safe. No one person rovides the download. You download chunks from a swarm of sites. They make it very hard for the RIAA to spy on things.If you are on windows the client that most people use is uTorrent (microtorrent).I’m on Linux so I use the real bitTorrent package which is written in python. You could run the real bitTorrent on windows but you’d have to install python.

Sorry, was off the computer a few. Bittorrent is not exactly legal, much like Napster before it started charging and going the legal route. But lately the authorityyes have given up prosecution because of the costs compared to the settlements and are only going after the major file-sharers with complicity of the ISP. The first thing done is a warning. The second is losing your internet service. I don’t do a lot of it so (knock on wood) I take my chances. And most of what I d/l (not West Wing) is replacement for something I’ve bought at least once anyway so I don’t get hung up on the ethical thing. I have the Ion turntable to make vinyl into mp3 (thanks to ceu) but it takes sitting and marking between each track so I shortcut when I can–I am fifty and have several hundred albums. I can’t possibly live long enough. Wouldn’t take so long but if I answer the phone or have to pee, I have to start all over.

Sorry, was off the computer a few. Bittorrent is not exactly legal, much like Napster before it started charging and going the legal route. But lately the authorityyes have given up prosecution because of the costs compared to the settlements and are only going after the major file-sharers with complicity of the ISP. The first thing done is a warning. The second is losing your internet service. I don’t do a lot of it so (knock on wood) I take my chances. And most of what I d/l (not West Wing) is replacement for something I’ve bought at least once anyway so I don’t get hung up on the ethical thing. I have the Ion turntable to make vinyl into mp3 (thanks to ceu) but it takes sitting and marking between each track so I shortcut when I can–I am fifty and have several hundred albums. I can’t possibly live long enough. Wouldn’t take so long but if I answer the phone or have to pee, I have to start all over.

And what Goddamn Ashby and Git said. I have picked up a virus or two as I was downloaded but my AV caught it immediately and I’ve since learned which sites to trust. My favorite is Btjunkie and I use Vuze for my software.

And what Goddamn Ashby and Git said. I have picked up a virus or two as I was downloaded but my AV caught it immediately and I’ve since learned which sites to trust. My favorite is Btjunkie and I use Vuze for my software.

*downloadING* dammit

thanks everyone

BitTorrent is completely legal and many things are shared on it which are in no way in violation of copyrights laws.Now, using it for things which do violate such laws is not legal, but the worst that you may see happen is your ISP asking you to stop doing it or else they might… warn you again, and again. Its really not in their business interest to actively pursue file sharers. As DP pointed out, the RIAA decently decided they aren’t going to try prosecuting people anymore because its futile.

BitTorrent is completely legal and many things are shared on it which are in no way in violation of copyrights laws.Now, using it for things which do violate such laws is not legal, but the worst that you may see happen is your ISP asking you to stop doing it or else they might… warn you again, and again. Its really not in their business interest to actively pursue file sharers. As DP pointed out, the RIAA decently decided they aren’t going to try prosecuting people anymore because its futile.

DP -Downloading copyrighted material without permission of the copyright holder is illegal.BitTorrent is legal because it has significant noninfringing uses. Linux software sources and executables are distributed using bitTorrent perfectly legally because the software license allows such sharing.The shit (and I do mean garbage) from the media cartel is not legal to share because they are greedy prick assholes that got our copyright terms extended to “until hell freezes over”.Copyright term was 14 years when the U.S. Copyright Law was first written. Jefferson argued for 7 and thought 14 was radically too long.Copyright Law now says life of the author plus 70 years unless it’s owned by a company then it’s 85 years. The Colecovision games released in 1983 will be protected by copyright until 2068. A machine to play them in hasn’t been manufactured since 1984. Good luck finding one. Those games will enter the public domain about 80 years after the software had any relevance for anything. Those games are all in Z80 assembly language. The real source code is probably already long lost.But it’s protected by copyright.BitTorrent is not illegal. You can use it to do illegal things. You can use your car to do illegal things.

DP -Downloading copyrighted material without permission of the copyright holder is illegal.BitTorrent is legal because it has significant noninfringing uses. Linux software sources and executables are distributed using bitTorrent perfectly legally because the software license allows such sharing.The shit (and I do mean garbage) from the media cartel is not legal to share because they are greedy prick assholes that got our copyright terms extended to “until hell freezes over”.Copyright term was 14 years when the U.S. Copyright Law was first written. Jefferson argued for 7 and thought 14 was radically too long.Copyright Law now says life of the author plus 70 years unless it’s owned by a company then it’s 85 years. The Colecovision games released in 1983 will be protected by copyright until 2068. A machine to play them in hasn’t been manufactured since 1984. Good luck finding one. Those games will enter the public domain about 80 years after the software had any relevance for anything. Those games are all in Z80 assembly language. The real source code is probably already long lost.But it’s protected by copyright.BitTorrent is not illegal. You can use it to do illegal things. You can use your car to do illegal things.

Thanks, guys. Now I feel all legal ‘n stuff. Maybe I’ll go smoke a doob to get that bad-girl feeling back.

Thanks, guys. Now I feel all legal ‘n stuff. Maybe I’ll go smoke a doob to get that bad-girl feeling back.

Git – I am completely respectful of your worship of the IPU, you can worship the IPU to your hearts content, I just dont wan’t to hear about it.If certain people would simply leave worship of the IPU out of logical conversation and policy debate, the world would be better served./sarcasm

Git – I am completely respectful of your worship of the IPU, you can worship the IPU to your hearts content, I just dont wan’t to hear about it.If certain people would simply leave worship of the IPU out of logical conversation and policy debate, the world would be better served./sarcasm

Curse this state I live inhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_on_re_us/us_guns_in_churchPastor in Louisville is encouraging his congregation to bring guns to church.They’re even going to raffle off a handgun and play patriotic music!…..Im going to fucking barf

Curse this state I live inhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_on_re_us/us_guns_in_churchPastor in Louisville is encouraging his congregation to bring guns to church.They’re even going to raffle off a handgun and play patriotic music!…..Im going to fucking barf

Guns in Churches! What could go wrong?One of the southern states, I think SC IIRC, had a law that required all men to wear guns to church.This state law was passed sometime in the early 1800s when a group of bandits on horseback invaded the town on Sunday morning when everyone was in Church. Since everyone had left their guns at home, including the Sheriff and his deputies, the bandits were able to rob everyone and empty every cashbox.The law was passed the next week because it was assumed that the band would repeat the stunt in other towns. They must have heard about the law and never made another attempt.The law was still on the book in the 1970s. It may still be. It hasn’t been enforced in over a century.

Guns in Churches! What could go wrong?One of the southern states, I think SC IIRC, had a law that required all men to wear guns to church.This state law was passed sometime in the early 1800s when a group of bandits on horseback invaded the town on Sunday morning when everyone was in Church. Since everyone had left their guns at home, including the Sheriff and his deputies, the bandits were able to rob everyone and empty every cashbox.The law was passed the next week because it was assumed that the band would repeat the stunt in other towns. They must have heard about the law and never made another attempt.The law was still on the book in the 1970s. It may still be. It hasn’t been enforced in over a century.

I just read about that Ashby, only in the south.

I just read about that Ashby, only in the south.

Meanwhile here in yankeeland, the Capitol police in HTFD had the NJ police arrest Hal Turner for using his blog & radio to incite violence by threatening/promising to release the home addresses of two state congresscritters & a guy who works in the ethics office.“It is our intent to foment direct action against these individuals personally,” the blog stated. “These beastly government officials should be made an example of as a warning to others in government: Obey the Constitution or die.”The Capitol police response to that was: “Mr. Turner’s comments are above and beyond the threshold of free speech,” Capitol Police Chief Michael J. Fallon said in an e-mail announcing the warrant. “He is inciting others through his website to commit acts of violence and has created fear and alarm. He should be held accountable for his conduct.”We don’t put up with that shit here…

Meanwhile here in yankeeland, the Capitol police in HTFD had the NJ police arrest Hal Turner for using his blog & radio to incite violence by threatening/promising to release the home addresses of two state congresscritters & a guy who works in the ethics office.“It is our intent to foment direct action against these individuals personally,” the blog stated. “These beastly government officials should be made an example of as a warning to others in government: Obey the Constitution or die.”The Capitol police response to that was: “Mr. Turner’s comments are above and beyond the threshold of free speech,” Capitol Police Chief Michael J. Fallon said in an e-mail announcing the warrant. “He is inciting others through his website to commit acts of violence and has created fear and alarm. He should be held accountable for his conduct.”We don’t put up with that shit here…

Now they need to arrest Jil Santek who is posting photos and the addresses of remaining abortion doctors.

Now they need to arrest Jil Santek who is posting photos and the addresses of remaining abortion doctors.

If I could take an actual winter Chris, I would be moving up there with you. But, I think the winters here are too cold. Also, snow is nice when you get it a couple of times every 2-3 years.

If I could take an actual winter Chris, I would be moving up there with you. But, I think the winters here are too cold. Also, snow is nice when you get it a couple of times every 2-3 years.

Yeah, but when he posted how to build gliders and fly them over the inauguration bit bombs and blow up the capitol with everyone sitting there, they didn’t think that was serious enough. He had detailed instructions with pictures on his blog back in December and early January of that. Mr. Turner did.. The Secret Service and FBI questioned him then and let him go. I guess threatening the President elect and all the members of Congress wasn’t good enough at that time.

Yeah, but when he posted how to build gliders and fly them over the inauguration bit bombs and blow up the capitol with everyone sitting there, they didn’t think that was serious enough. He had detailed instructions with pictures on his blog back in December and early January of that. Mr. Turner did.. The Secret Service and FBI questioned him then and let him go. I guess threatening the President elect and all the members of Congress wasn’t good enough at that time.

“Mr. Turner’s comments are above and beyond the threshold of free speech,” Capitol Police Chief Michael J. Fallon said in an e-mail announcing the warrant. “He is inciting others through his website to commit acts of violence and has created fear and alarm. He should be held accountable for his conduct.”Why are Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, and Glenn Beck not under arrest? Do state legislators get better protection than Doctors and other normal citizens?

“Mr. Turner’s comments are above and beyond the threshold of free speech,” Capitol Police Chief Michael J. Fallon said in an e-mail announcing the warrant. “He is inciting others through his website to commit acts of violence and has created fear and alarm. He should be held accountable for his conduct.”Why are Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, and Glenn Beck not under arrest? Do state legislators get better protection than Doctors and other normal citizens?

Yes, they do. We are surfs.

Yes, they do. We are surfs.

well, git, they ain’t threatening CT legislators. If they do, they may find themselves in the jail next to Turner.

well, git, they ain’t threatening CT legislators. If they do, they may find themselves in the jail next to Turner.