It’s Looking Good

Just in:

Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Democratic leaders just emerged from a closed-door caucus meeting that included a personal appearance by President Obama confident the House will pass a sweeping health care reform bill today.

I can’t get any of the live streams to play, and I’m not near a television. If you’re watching, feel free to use this as a liveblog of the House proceedings.

UPDATE 6:29PM: I’ve been watching the proceedings on CSPAN for the last couple of hours. Virginia Foxx wasn’t as crazy as I was hoping. But the cavalcade of shameless Republicans quoting Frank Luntz’s ridiculous memo is hilarious. It’s like watching a Daily Show repetition montage, but in slow motion. Speaker Pelosi is speaking now, so hopefully we’ll get to the amendments soon.

UPDATE 9:18PM: Via Huffington Post:

Today we will pass the Affordable Health Care for America Act,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said on the House floor Saturday evening. Politico is reporting that Democrats have at least the 218 votes needed to pass the bill. Four Democratic aides tell HuffPost the same thing.

If Mike Pence were capable of human emotion, he’d be really upset by this news.

UPDATE 10:27PM: The stupid Stupak Amendment passes. Shitty. The Republican Plan has failed with one Republican voting against it. On to the final bill…

UPDATE 11:10PM: The House bill has passed! 220-215. One Republican, Joseph Cao, voted for the bill.

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  • http://www.thedailybanter.com Ari Rutenberg

    I’ve been the House proceedings all morning (Im in LA) on CSPAN. Aside from a few minutes of totally pointless delay due to Republican’s objecting to the fact that Democrats were talking, there haven’t been too many fireworks. Iowas Steve King did spew so totally insane bullshit about how all Americans are already covered and how our system is the best at everything and there is essentially no need to fix it. What a dick….

  • ceu

    I’m watching C-SPAN, too. Second warning to people in the gallery to basically STFU. GOPers trying to scare the crap out of everyone by saying that people will lose their jobs, illegal immigrants will pass around social security cards in order to get care, and that taxes will go up dramatically. it’s pretty much SSDD

  • J M Ashby

    It sure is a sad sight to see so many adults in positions of power act like children.Piss-poor role models to the nation.

  • J M Ashby

    I dont think I can bare to read the comments over at Crooks and Liars anymore. They’re just as fucking looney as the right-wing.”the only acceptable progressive stance is to kill this bill and start over in the spring”Yeah ok…

  • Jan

    The rethugs are acting like children, throwing their hissy fits. I cannot remember this type of behavior in the House (the people’s house).I have not seen folks shouting out “I object” while our represenatives are speaking.Sucks.

  • ceu

    Shaddagg uses a baby as a prop, telling us all what little Maddie does & doesn’t want. (she doesn’t want HCR) and Buyer started shouting then wouldn’t shut up. And the GOPers don’t seem to understand what “your time has expired” means.

  • http://oneceltsview.blogspot.com/ Wolfe_Tone

    I love them visual aids and props!

  • J M Ashby

    I was watching C-Span but I can’t take it anymore.Every single Republican that stands up says “government run healthcare oogabooga!”VA = government runMedicare = government run”super awesome high risk pools” = government runLOUD NOISES!

  • Brian

    Watching now on C-span. Right now Way and Means Committee is up right now. Rep. Patrick Tiberi, is spewing loud noises.

  • Hielo

    Ho. Lee. Shit!How can anyone cast a vote for these silly, immature, lying psychos?

  • eve

    “Ho. Lee. Shit!How can anyone cast a vote for these silly, immature, lying psychos?” by Hieloamazing that we seem to have a sizable portion of the population that is batshit crazy and likes these moronsThey should hope there is a lot of mental health care reform in this bill as they need it so badly.

  • J M Ashby

    The house bill does infact cover Mental Healthcare.

  • odoralwayscold

    Quote from ceu: “And the GOPers don’t seem to understand what “your time has expired” means.”Don’t get ahead of yourself. This isn’t what people want. They want single payer. So when the next elections come around, they won’t view this as such a great thing by the Democrats. They’ll view it as yet another compromise of their human rights by government and big business, and regard politics with same, justified, level of skepticism. So the Republicans can quite easily win. It depends on their financing, and whether they can market themselves effectively on some key bullshit issues, like personality, rhetoric, and so on. The same as any other election. Pass single payer and, sure, the Democrats would be in for life. But they won’t.

  • odoralwayscold

    Quote from eve: “amazing that we seem to have a sizable portion of the population that is batshit crazy and likes these morons”They ‘like’ them because they provide an answer as to why their lives are miserable. Wages are in the toilet, and working hours through the moon. You can call them morons, but their grievances are justified. The left has merely failed to provide an alternative answer, because the left – the one that is allowed express its opinion – is, substantively, the same as the right.For instance, unionization has been repressed continually by both Democrats and Republicans. If the left was interested in educating these people, they would encourage unionization in the morning, as it has proved to be a very effective democratizing force with the population. But the last thing either side want is people knowing what’s really going on. Thus, unionization is demonized, or not even on the table.

  • eve

    We need a lot of change in many areas, odor. But the left and the right in this country are NOT the same.

  • ceu

    odoralwayscold: Don’t get ahead of yourself.huh? What you quoted from me referred to people continuing to speak more than a couple words AFTER the speaker has banged the gavel & said that time has expired.

  • Kat

    Michelle Bachmann’s voice makes me want to scream. And the whole lei thing? WTF?

  • Kat

    And I read it somewhere else today, probably here, but this House “debate” really is nothing more than ads for 2010.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Kat, I was thinking the same thing about Michelle Bachman. WTF was she wearing and who gives a rats ass that two people came from Hawaii and gave her a fucking lei.It is all exactly as I thought it would be. Like Bob would say…LOUD NOISES !!!!!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Someone needs to punch John Boehner in his mouth !!!

  • Kat

    Second that, Willpen.

  • ceu

    Loud noises, yes. But be fair, there’re also been some shiny objects & a baby!

  • Kat

    Oohhhh…babies!In other news, Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson has got style. That’s quite a jacket.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Isn’t it odd that everyone that stands up against this bill is overwhelmingly white.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Another white dude from Louisiana….oh.. and a Dr too….pfffttttt…

  • odoralwayscold

    ceu, I’m sorry for misinterupting you.Eve, if the left is the Democratic party (and notice I said “the left – the one that is allowed express its opinion”), and the likes of the New York Times, then it is on pretty much every issue. Poll after poll shows that both parties are massively to the right of the population on stuff like the wars, health care, unionization, the economy, international law, Israel, Iran, the state of democracy. Scholarship shows the same about mainstream leftist, intellectual opinion.The differences are really minor, to the point where 85% of Americans, check the polls, believe that both parties are run by, and for, a few elite, private interests. Which is true.

  • Kat

    Rep. Cole and I are looking at different polls, apparently.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    What polls are Tom Cole reading???

  • Kat

    Willpen and I are sharing a brain tonight. Right on.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    LOL !!! Bread and Butter

  • Kat

    We’ve been watching for about 45 minutes, and my kid just asked why we’ve only seen one woman with an R and no R African-American people.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Go Diana DeGette… !!!!!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Go Rosa !!!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    These bastards have managed to turn this into a debate on abortion. Un-fucking-believable…..!!!

  • Gottverdammt Klaus

    Ladies and Gentleman, fellow Cescans, I salute you. Watching Republicans on CSpan is dedication to a degree I cannot manifest.Instead, I’ve been watching Mike Rowe on Dirty Jobs all day.So I thank you all for watching and commenting here, so I can keep my sanity and still know what’s going on.Cheers!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Heir Bachmann has spoken again… UGH!!!

  • veralynn

    ditto what Klaus said

  • Anne

    Go Jan! I wish she was still my rep. . .

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    I feel like setting my hair on fire….. WTF is wrong with these people… this is NOT a debate on ABORTION !!!!!

  • ceu

    The Stupak Amendment is not acceptable. They aren’t talking about not paying for abortions. They want NO federal help – subsidies or tax credits – for anyone who has a private policy that covers abortions. And, ladies & gents, I’d venture to guess that includes most of you with health insurance. Now might be a good time to contact your Congresscritter!

  • Kat

    Willpen is right. When the fuck did this become a debate about abortion???

  • veralynn

    Tried Chris….my critter has already decided to vote against the entire bill. :( I have emailed and called, I even know his chief of staff, to no avail. I am sad about this, however, he is much better than the previous guy. I will have to trust that others critters will vote properly. And cross fingers and toes that mine will be swayed.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Vote down Stupak Amendment… !!! YES

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    The slugs have been pushed back into the mud for now…

  • Allonfla

    @Odor: What people want single payer? The Left people? ‘Cause I would bet money that the majority of this country has no clue what single payer is and that it was ever an option. The people didn’t elect congressional Dems and the president thinking that they were going to get single payer. I think whatever people you are talking about shouldn’t get ahead of THEMSELVES. Sorry, but there isn’t and wasn’t a large enough movement for single payer to justify your comment. Sure, it’s been talked about for years, but for some reason(s)it’s not something that the average American talks about at the kitchen table. I started following politics 2 years ago and heard nothing of single payer until less than a year ago. In addition, most Americans are for compromise. Forget the all or nothing attitude you see from the Left or the Right.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Mr. Tan is at it again.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Boehner is touting the GOP health care plan that was used as toilet paper by the CBO. This should be classic.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    The DEMOCRAT bill… they are at it again….

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    OOOOOOOOOOOO.. he said CZAR !!!

  • http://nanotyrnns.blogspot.com/ Nanotyrannus

    I don’t have the cables! Somebody tell me what Diana DeGette said!! She’s my rep and always makes me proud!

  • Anne

    She said “To call the Stupak amendment a wolf in sheep’s clothing would be the understatement of the year” and then proceeded to throw it down!

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Oh, Mike Pence is making me all misty eyed. …Douche.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    and the award for “I cried in my Cornflakes” goes to Mike Pence…..

  • jane

    Nansers, I’m listening on Cspan online.http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    What Jane said.. me too..

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Mike Pence challenging the Blue Dogs to vote against their President. This is FRO FREEDOM!

  • jane

    Shorter Pence: “Don’t let government intrude…TO HELP YOU!!!”

  • Anne

    My internet connection keeps dropping – what happened with the amendment? Was it voted on? Did it fail?

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Thaddeus is full of metaphor tonight….

  • Kat

    Thaddeus McCotter just brought up skidmarks. Funny, that’s usually how I think of his political party.

  • ceu

    This is what I found on the twitters, Nano:@JasonLeopold RT @CQHealthtweet: It’s a Dem vs. Dem, DeGette says Stupak amendment “greatest restriction of woman’s rt 2 choose in R careers” #hcr

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Anne.. the Stupak amendment failed.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Thaddeus McCotter just called the Democratic Party the “party of the past.” Guess he forgot about November and that he is in the minuscule minority.Heh… Thaddeus.

  • Anne

    Hey Thaddeus – YOU’RE the party of the past!

  • ceu

    Anne – failed on voice vote, but someone called for a electronic or roll call vote. I thought it was postponed, but that might be wrong

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    GO New Jersey…

  • jane

    Boy howdy do I wish I could be there and yell “FUCK YEAH!” every once in a while. (I understand this does not follow protocol?)

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    George Miller just rocked!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Yes he did…but the Gentlemen from Texas is full of shit.

  • http://nanotyrnns.blogspot.com/ Nanotyrannus

    My connection is not so great either. It keeps cutting out.

  • veralynn

    I always loved Mr. Miller. He and Mr. Dellums….made my page time fun.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Joe Barton thinks he’s in Cool Hand Luke! “What we have here is a failure to communicate.” HA!!!

  • veralynn

    lol, I just reread my comment above. I do NOT mean it in that way. I forget that critters and pages have such history sometimes.

  • Kat

    Agree with the sentiments about George Miller.

  • jane

    My innernets stream is finally working but my fucking head is exploding. HAVE WE HATED ON MEXICANS ENOUGH IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES?? FREEDOM MERKA YEAH!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Charlie Rangel Rocks

  • veralynn
  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Jane… the Mexican hating is just about to begin…

  • jane

    Fuck, the fucking House looks like it needs a few Day Care helpers most times, just to point out childishness.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Jim McDermott is kicking ass

  • Kat

    “Republican obstructionism has become one giant pre-existing condition…” – Lloyd DoggettNice.

  • ceu

    No, Jane. Only “you lie” fits the protocol.

  • jane

    Chris, and IOKIYAR. (Important footnote.)

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    I like Mr. Bow Tie Bicycle Brooch Man.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Some nice Repukelican bashing going on

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    lieing liars

  • ceu

    Roy Blunt’s name’s appropriate, eh? Cause he’s smoking something.

  • ceu

    and IOKIYARwell, duh!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Is Roy Blunt high on something? He makes no fucking sense

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Ceu.. great minds think alike..lol..

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Ron Kind looks like John Boehner light.

  • jane

    I’d be fucking crabby to still be at work at this hour for a desk job. Especially with all the vacation time these guys enjoy. (Really, let’s just work till 5:30 and get er done and enjoy the four week breaks we get, yalls!)Which is yet another reason you have to be nuts to be a politician.

  • jane

    “You’re on your own” = “Don’t get sick, or if you do, die quickly” but with less soundbiteability

  • Kat

    I think they should have let Ed Markey talk more.1. He was kicking ass.2. I dig his accent.

  • jane

    I feel like I’m watching high school student council election campaign speeches. Nobody’s convincing anybody of anything.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Rep. Markey: “G.O.P. Grandstand, Oppose and Pretend.” LOVE IT!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    I just saw a schedule update about the Abortion Amendment vote at 9:30

  • ceu

    Kat – Markey’s is close to an RI accentWillpen – yep – GMTA :)

  • Kat

    WEINER!!!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Anthony Weiner is up..

  • Kat

    (Really, it’s embarrassing how excited I get about Weiner)

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Go Brooklyn…

  • jane

    Everybody likes to end up with some Weiner.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Me too..

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    This guy is sooo New York. I love him..

  • Kat

    Gawd, I love Weiner. I need a cigarette.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    your 15 seconds is up buddy…. take a hike..

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Eric Cantor.. the pseudo Jew.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Weiner was awesome as usual. What the hell was that 15 second rebuttal all about?! Uh oh. Cantor needs 5 minutes because he speaks so fucking slow. And he’c complaining about the 1990 pages! Maybe he reads as slowly as he speaks.

  • jane

    Cantor’s dick is hard after the election results. Sorry, I mean his sense of entitlement is uhhhh, firm.

  • Kat

    Cantor uses the same hair color I did when I was in high school.I know. But he reduces me to childish insults.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=65905268&ref=profile Mike H.

    I wish I was jewish

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Yeah, Jane. Another two house seats lost. And their pet project died in NY-23.

  • jane

    Cantor wants to party like it’s 1937.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    What a major dick….

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    The extraordinary diversity…. that’s what I like to hear.

  • jane

    BIYOTCH HAS VOTING PRIVILEGES NOW WoooooT

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Don’t mess with The Norton! She’ll whack you with a broom handle!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Well Mike, I am.. and the Eric Cantors of the world embarass me.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    We are about to DO this to the American people.. you ain’t kidding…

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    What is this douche trying to do here?

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Gomer Pyle is looking for a copy of the bill? It’s this the same schmuck that held up the “Where’s the Bill?” sign at the Joint Session?What a douche!

  • http://www.bobcesca.com Bob_Cesca

    Kat:>>>>I think they should have let Ed Markey talk more.I agree. But what the hell was the “break your toe” thing?

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Who’s taking odds that Boner is gonna cry?

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    If Boner cries his fake tan may run.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    WTF is this guy trying to say… yada … yada.. yada…

  • Anne

    (I think my feed is a few minutes behind)Gohmert is a douche!

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Didn’t they only give him a minute? What the fuck?

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Is there a purpose to anything that he is saying or is it just that he goes home at night and listens to himself to get off…

  • Anne

    I see a prop in the background. . .Goodie!

  • Kat

    Gomer Pyle is looking for a copy of the bill? It’s this the same schmuck that held up the “Where’s the Bill?” sign at the Joint Session?Heh. I was totally thinking the same thing.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    The “Health Choices Czar”? What the fuck is that all about? I’ve been working double shifts for the last two weeks. Is this something else they pulled out of Frank Luntz’s ample ass?

  • Kat

    “The most unconstitutional thing I’ve ever seen in my life.” – Orange OprahWho knew that John Boehner was born last year.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Somebody should shoot a paper clip at his face.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Orange Oprah… lol… OMG..lol…..

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    It looks like Boner is doing a summary of every attack they’ve put forward for the last two months. Here we go! Let’s take a look at the fabricated flow chart!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    He said the word… the dreaded word/…..HEALTH CZAR !!!!

  • veralynn

    thank you guys, again, for watching so I don’t have to.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Okay, now I know he’s been talking longer than 5 minutes. That was their total remaining time. WHAT. THE. FUCK?I know he’s gonna cry. I just know it. Either that or vomit the fifth of bourbon he downed in the cloak room.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Does he actually think that anyone is following this shit.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    My ears are bleeding.

  • jane

    Goddammit, Carl. I thought seeing him cry would be the tour de farce until you mentioned vomiting. Now I’m torn. Can I has both?

  • Anne

    Is he drunk?

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    The teacher just gave a time out to the class…

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    I think he is trying to put everyone to sleep so they can’t vote… somebody put him out of his fucking misery.

  • Kat

    I think he’s banging the gavel just to keep people awake.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Is he drunk?

    Always.

  • jane

    Or just himself, Kat.

  • Kat

    Good of Boehner to read the super-fun parts of the bill for those in his party who couldn’t take time out from their extra-curricular activities (i.e. hookers) to read the bill themselves. What a giver./snark (not really – the snark will be back later)

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    I love the occasional hand to mouth to cover his alcohol burps. Classy.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    The best health care system in the world…. RIGHT !!!! The problem is that he honestly believes it.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Dim the lights of freedom…. OMFG..

  • jane

    NOOOOO! DON’T DIM THE FREEDOM LIGHTS!!!!

  • Kat

    Thank FSM he’s done. I was about to start taking tequila shots every time he licked his lips just to keep myself occupied.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    FRO FREEDOM!

  • ceu

    I agree. But what the hell was the “break your toe” thing?GOP has hard hearts. If you kick them in the heart, you’ll break your toe.It probably sounded better in rehearsal.And Boehner! He may know how to read English, but he sure as hell doesn’t understand it! I can’t see what’s funny about figuring out best practices. And god forbid, there should be any kind of help for raising kids. Nope – no one needs any education on that ’cause everyone’s doing just dandy on their own.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    My damn connection keeps cutting out..

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Amazing that some morons are booing Dingell. Ooh, Nancy’s in her flame red dress. She makes me hot when she wears that.

  • jane

    It is waaaaaaaaay past some of these guys’ bedtimes.

  • veralynn

    ok, I have to start watching…the nutjobs are over right?

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    It’s done, Vera. They are now voting, first the Stupak Amendment.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    I am listening to this and hearing that wall between Church and State, crumbling..

  • ceu

    Okay, it appears that the first vote – the one coming up – will be on the Stupak Amendment, which will possibly gut the subsidies part of HCR. What it does, essentially, is not allow subsidies or tax credits to help lower income people pay for their premiums & co-pays if the insurance policies they have cover abortion. Many employer-offered policies do. It matters not if a person actually USES that benefit, only that their policy allows it.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Ceu – it also prevents insurance companies from participating in the exchange unless they strip their abortion coverage. You know, telling private companies how to run their business.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    I can’t believe that it passed… FUCK !!!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Help me out here. When this goes to the Senate, do they get to vote on this amendment again?

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    It looks like the Stupak Amendment is going to pass. A very sad day for pro-choicers. And not much pushback from Planned Parenthood or NARAL.Jane Hamsher: And the Catholic Bishops Endorse! A Special Thank-You To Planned Parenthood and NARAL

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Religion rears it’s ugly head again.

  • Anne

    Godammit. Where’s the best place to find the list of Dem. reps who voted yes?

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Rep. Shadegg (R-AZ) voted present. Pretty ballsy.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    It’ll be posted on http://www.house.govDon‘t know how soon they post after the vote.

  • roxsteady

    Get these fake ass, right to life, Republican leaning fucking Blue Dogs and womb chasers out of the fucking Democratic party. Part of being a Democrat is keeping your nose out of my VAGINA! I hate Republican men and would like to see all of them castrated. In fact, I’d be happy to perform the procedure! Limp Dick sons of bitches! I’m only sorry their moms didn’t have the choice that is available to women today!

  • ceu

    thanks, Carl. I hadn’t realized that.Anne, i don’t know if we’ll know since it was electronic and not roll call. Does anyone know??

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Is anybody listening to these calls on CSPAN. I can’t believe how fucking clueless some of these people are. They are like parrots repeating the shit that just came out of Boehners pie hole.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Well it looks like Boehner can kiss his amendment goodbye.

  • roxsteady

    Just shoved Boner’s amendment back up his ass! YES!

  • roxsteady

    Hell No! 258-176! The Republican piece of hosre shit of a bill has been flushed!

  • DocReason

    Why are people surprised Stupak passed? Are the Democrats somehow immune to corporate lobbying? The vast majority of citizens want real health care reform, but they’re not represented in the House and Senate. The health insurance industry is.You want REAL change? Do something to end this oligarchic system.

  • mattpd

    Ironic, given all the disruptive town hall events, that Cantor wants quiet before he can speak.

  • ceu

    oh god. Tort reform. They don’t need tort reform – they need malpractice insurance premium reform!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Eric Cantor can shove tort reform up his ass.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    They are like children. When they get beaten down on one thing they just come back with something else. They are like children holding their breathe.

  • Kat

    Oh how nice. Rep from Florida waxing poetic about how wonderful government administered health care. Do they not see the irony?

  • mattpd

    is that bachmann sitting behind this guy talking? she is staring like a lunatic.

  • ceu

    We’re not surprised, Doc. We’re disgusted.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    If you though you were pissed before, this will make your blood boil.

  • Anne

    I see Rep. Maxine Waters behind Rep. Hoyer. Love her!

  • Kat

    From GottaLaff’s Twitter: Tim Johnson was the lone Republican vote against Orangina’s substitute.Off to Google Tim Johnson.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    The joint is getting rowdy…

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    The are such a bunch of disruptive bastards.

  • DocReason

    Why would ANY F*ING Dem vote yea to recommit?

  • DocReason

    Roll call on the Stupak vote:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll884.xml

  • roxsteady

    It doesnt’ matter that Stupak’s bill passed. It won’t make it into the final bill. I’m assuming the liberals and progressives will strip it out and when those same womb obsessed Democrats vote against the the final bill it won’t matter because final passage only requires 50 votes plus Joe Biden to break the tie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=65905268&ref=profile Mike H.

    Jason Altmire voted for Stupack!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Thank you Rox… you just talked me off of my ledge.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    There are 10 dem turncoats that voted yes on this motion.

  • ceu

    is that bachmann sitting behind this guy talking? Bachmann’s hard to miss, Matt. She’s wearing a lei!

  • veralynn

    Sorry Rox. The final legislation has to pass both houses again. This just gets it to conference committee with the Senate. They hash out the final bill and then it gets voted on by both houses again. If it passes then it will go to the presidents desk.

  • ceu

    Thanks for the site, doc.CT’s delegation was NAY across the board. :)

  • http://www.osborneink.com Matt Osborne

    Here it comes…

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    Bob,Please tell me why you think the Stupak amendment is a bad thing.

  • veralynn

    And doesn’t the guy talking on CSPAN sound like Dan Patrick? or is that just me?

  • Anne

    OMG – they’re voting on the final bill! Here we go. . .

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    The final moment is here. This is very historic folks. Something to tell our grandchildren about.

  • Kat

    Not just you, veralynn.

  • veralynn

    212

  • veralynn

    thanks Kat :)

  • veralynn

    I have the urge to look up….when you are on the floor, the wall behind the speakers dais has all the names and the yea and nay votes. Goddamn I love the chamber.

  • Anne

    215

  • ceu

    Keep in mind that what passes tonight is still only a preliminary bill

  • veralynn

    218!!!

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    just 2 more votes.

  • Kat

    And it passes. Right the fuck on.So nice to know that my jackass representative (who walks around with a D by his name) voted against it.

  • jane

    Dear Pooper,Please ram it up your poop chute.xoxo,Jane

  • J M Ashby

    And it passes!And… Party Pooper…the answer to that is pretty obvious, quit trolling.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=65905268&ref=profile Mike H.

    Kat: Who is your rep?

  • veralynn

    one dem hasn’t voted and one repub voted yea

  • Kat

    A Republican vote? Can someone who is smarter than me find out who?

  • DocReason

    Does this mean we’re socialists now? Oh NOOOOOES!

  • veralynn

    220-215

  • Anne

    Who is the rethug who voted yea?

  • Kat

    Mike H: Mike McIntyre (Douchebag – NC)

  • veralynn

    Kat, from TPMLate Update: Rep. Tim Johnson (R-IL) was the sole Republican to vote against the Boehner bill. No one seem really clear as to what his reasoning was. As I noted below, Rep. Cao (R-LA) is the only member of the Republican caucus believed to be in play. And he voted for it, though in a high stakes case like this it would not be surprising to see him vote for both.

  • DocReason
  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    I bet Michelle Bachmans lei has wilted…

  • Kat

    C-Span just told me – Joseph Cao from LA.

  • veralynn

    that’s alright will, she has voodoo to fix that

  • Kat

    Willpen: I bet Orangina’s boner has wilted.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    This is just the first hurdle. We must stay diligent. They are gonna come out fighting like caged animals now.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    @Kat….lol….

  • veralynn

    I am going to be catty and just say it…I don’t think that dress is flattering. at all.

  • jane

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • Anne

    It will be a tough fight in the Senate

  • J M Ashby

    The republican all look like someone peed in their cherios.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Obama is smart… he is in hiding at Camp David…

  • DocReason

    39 Dems voting nay shows we need to mantain a large margin to pass anything. They D I S G U S T me.

  • http://www.bobcesca.com Redmond

    So, wait, I’m not getting free abortions now? — KILL THE BILL! ARGH! NOISES! DIABETES!

  • roxsteady

    As I said, final passage doesnt’ have to be voted on by the Democrats who voted for Stupak’s amendment. Now, it would take 60 votes by the Dems to kill the entire bill but, it wouldn’t take 60 votes to strip out the Stupak amendment because the Republicans who voted for Stupak’s amendment won’t be voting yes on the final bill so, what you’ll have is some 55 House members voting against the rest of the House Democrats and the Democratic Senators. Get it?

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    Jane, Blow me.JM, I am serious when i ask my question. It’s not obvious to me. Explain it.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    Thanks Rox.

  • Anne

    Thanks for a fun night everyone!

  • jane

    Poopster, I willingly blow those whose statements are witty. It’s a blessing, not a curse.

  • http://www.bobcesca.com Bob_Cesca

    New thread if you need it.

  • http://willpen.wordpress.com/ Willpen

    I am outta here too. The Sunday shows should prove to be veryyyy interesting.

  • roxsteady

    What I’m saying to ‘Veralynn is that the Republicans that voted for the Stupak amendment won’t be voting yes on the final bills that get merged between the Senate and the House. If those 50 or so Blue Dogs or womb chasers vote against the final bill it won’t matter because they’re outnumbered. This is similar to what that douchebag Lieberman has said he’d do. Vote for the bill to get to the floor and then vote against it where only 51 votes will be required. Got it?

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    Jane, I asked a serious question, and as yet, have not received a serious response. If you believe I am against health care reform; if that was the reason for your statement, then you couldn’t be more wrong, and there are a few people here who would vouch for me.I’m glad the bill passed, but it isn’t close to enough. I won’t stop fighting until Single Payer is our way of life for healthcare. It’s the only way reform can work. What we have now will end up hurting many people, and we’ll be bailing out health insurers every year. I fear that this Public option will end up being a hurle to that, not a stepping stone.We’ll see.

  • Kat

    It was fun to hang out with y’all tonight. Reminds me of *sniff* the PTT. G’night!

  • roxsteady

    Don’t forget that Rachel Maddow will be on Meet The Press tomorrow. I can’t stand that clown David Gregory but, whenever Rachel is on it’s a much better show.

  • DocReason

    From Pooper’s blog:”Things are really getting interesting with the healthcare reform debate. I’m a single-payer advocate, but I guess, with only a super-majority in the Senate and House, the Democrats thought that drafting legislation which reflects their core beliefs was just too risky.”Ha! Brilliant :)

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    Doc, shhhh…They think I’m a troll :D

  • roxsteady

    Good Night All! And sleep well! We may not like the bill completely in it’s current form but, we won a big victory against the Republican asswipe party tonight. And my sister and I are drinking champagne. CHEERS!

  • jane

    Hey Poopster, I wasn’t really reacting at all to your question to Bob tonight, nor doubting your commitment to health care reform.It was more a general raspberry for your comments about the fucking Brown People sympathizers from the other night. Sorry, I should preface my insults rather than just hurl them. I really am just a bit lazy.

  • ceu

    f those 50 or so Blue Dogs or womb chasers vote against the final bill it won’t matter because they’re outnumbered.No, they’re not. If the final bill in the House has 40 Dems (the Blue Dogs you referenced) voting with the GOPers, the bill FAILS.

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    Ok Jane.I apologize for issuing you the biggest challenge of your life when I told you to blow me. And, I’m not a brown people hater, just a terrorist hater. But I can’t make a comment about a brown terrorist without being called a racist. It’s pathetic. I’ve seen first hand what religious zealotry is capable of; I’ve seen first hand how predators slaughter the weak.I was made to kill those predators, it’s in my blood. I wont apologize for it, and i won’t change. I hate terrorists and I don’t care what color they are. I hate their reasons, and I hate their “logic”. If it is their religion that drives them, then I hate that, too. If that’s racism, so be it.

  • DocReason

    So Stupak will be in it? If that’s the case, sap on DailyKos makes a good point.”and all we had to do was totally sell out women.like always.”

  • jane

    Shit, Pooper, hate away on the terrorists, especially the brown ones, if it makes you happy. All we “Osama-lovers” ask is that you try to refrain from prejudgment, as in the case of the Ft. Hood guy, who was actually raised Muslim (and Amerkin), before you worry that we aren’t doing enough in the GSAVE or whatever clever name our military industrial marketing department has settled on lately. Did you read Mr. Brink’s comment last night? It was quite eloquent. Hell, just take a page from Batshit Bachmann, and wait until you see the whites of their eyes before shooting (off your mouth), perhaps you will find that there is no enemy there after all.

  • http://www.bobcesca.com Redmond

    If it is their religion that drives them, then I hate that, too.

    Hilarious coming from a follower of the Sky Man who wants you to stone adulterers, gays and eaters of shellfish.

  • jane

    >>Hilarious coming from a follower of the Sky Man who wants you to stone adulterers, gays and eaters of shellfish.Also, brown people, apparently.

  • http://www.bobcesca.com Redmond

    PPP said:

    I’ve seen first hand what religious zealotry is capable of; I’ve seen first hand how predators slaughter the weak.

    Yeah, you saw it firsthand in the US military. I believe that’s what you would call the “Christian Superiority Complex” you mocked Mr. Brink for bringing up.

    I was made to kill those predators, it’s in my blood. I wont apologize for it, and i won’t change.

    Ah, good ol’ stubborn macho bravado. Where have I seen that before?

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    To answer PPP’s question even though I’m not Bob, the reason the Stupak amendment is a bad thing is because federal abortion funding is already illegal under the Hyde Amendment. The Stupak Amendment makes any insurance company that wants to become part of the exchange strip coverage for abortions from their plan, even though they are a private company. You know all the crap about Republicans whining that Democrats want to tell companies how to do business? Well, they’re doing exactly that with this amendment.So, if a woman “likes her health care and gets to keep it” but her insurance company wants to be part of the exchange to increase their customer base, they’d have to stop covering abortions, legal medical procedures. It may not be a problem for that particular woman, but it will certainly be an issue for many others.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl™

    Adding… trying to reduce the number of abortions are a good thing. This is the wrong way to go about it. And all this came up because of religious beliefs, not legislative reasons.