Owens Wins 23rd District!

And we get gambling in Ohio. Bring on the drugs, whores and booze! Moral turpitude for all!

Exit polls in Jersey and Virginia show that Obama had almost nothing to do with their vote. Expect to hear the exact opposite from the serious pundits for the next week.My shock?Doug Hoffman is a moron and he got 45% of the vote.America scares the shit out of me sometimes.

MrBrink said:

Doug Hoffman is a moron and he got 45% of the vote.
America scares the shit out of me sometimes.

Which is exactly why I still fear a Palin presidency. Never underestimate our national gravitation towards goddamn stupid.

Doug Hoffman is a moron and he got 45% of the vote.America scares the shit out of me sometimes.

46% of the country thought a bigger moran could be VP of the entire US.

McDonnell kept his mouth shut on all of the bullshit batshit stuff he believes and ran a decent campaign in VA; he didn’t let Palin endorse him publicly because he knew what a detriment to his campaign that would be. But historically in off year elections, VA always votes out the party of the POTUS and elects the opposing party, so McDonnell’s victory, while technically a GOP win, doesn’t really say much of anything, despite what Eric Cantor says.

I watched part of Hoffman’s halting, semi-articulate concession speech and thought: THIS is the guy that the teabaggers picked to be their standard-bearer? This was supposed to be the start of an anti-Obama avalanche? Jesus.As for NJ and VA, Eliot Spitzer made a great point on Hardball earlier: States are in such bad financial shape that virtually EVERY governor, regardless of party affiliation, is in trouble.

I should qualify my last comment. While McDonnell’s victory doesn’t indicate a resurgence of the GOP any more than the a fart indicates a hurricane, it does mean that those of us who live in VA, who believe in better things than the superiority of the straight, white, wealthy Christian male are kinda fucked. This guy is a disaster.

Amazing Political History of NY-23“If Democrats win NY-23 in a special election to be held later this year, it will therefore be the first time in 159 years that a Democrat is elected to represent at least a part of the district.So, a Democrat got elected in NY23 for the first time in 70 elections.But this is a day for wingnuts to rejoice as a referendum on the democratic party and president Obama…?huh.

Im sure Glenn Beck will devote his entire show tomorow about how the election was rigged and stolen by gypsys in the night.

No, it was ACORN that stole it.Hardball had a Teabagger spokesman on that kept hammering that point.

Fucking Maine. Goes to show you, sometimes the legislators do get it right. It’s an incredibly stupid idea to put gay marriage to a popular vote when it’s already allowed by law in the state. There are just too many bigots, homophobes and flat out morons in every locale.

Civil rights shouldn’t be voted on by the public. The Constitution is supposed to protect the individual from the tyranny of the majority. Betting that this will end up in court.Also, yesterday morning on Scarborough, Tim Pawlenty informed America that Scozzafava failed to meet the minimum standard to be a Republican (he’s not sure that Snowe meets it, either). Who knew they had standards?!

What Steve mentioned, “States are in such bad financial shape that virtually EVERY governor, regardless of party affiliation, is in trouble”, is absolutely true. I don’t know what Christie can do in Jersey that Corzine couldn’t do given the state’s fiscal disasters, but voters are desperate, and if there is no improvement, it won’t matter who started it, the incumbants are going down. The economy helped put the Dems back in power, but it can take them out real quick.

“1. I only hope this object lesson in party division isn’t lost on the Left.AND2. Keep going, Republicans, you’re doing great!”Both of these notes ignore the fact that party division is required right now on the Left.While unity may be necessary to defeat conservative powers in American politics, who exactly is being defeated and what is winning must be considered when making any considerations about the current political terrain in America.The Blue Dog Democrats and Republicans are increasingly allowed to define the agenda for progress in America while righteous liberal progressive representatives and senators are thrown under the bus by leadership like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.This is unacceptable and if it leads to party division, so be it. We Americans have a duty to a people, not a party. To fear division in the Democratic Party is to be an operative for Democratic Party interests that run counter to the interests and needs of the American people.Finally, Republicans may have lost this race that Doug Hoffman but they succeeded much more than we are willing to admit.A THIRD PARTY candidate from the Right ran against a Democrat and the Democrat nearly lost. The Left could never do this successfully because it worries too much about spoiler candidates instead of championing principle and valuable risk-taking in elections.Candidates like Hoffman actually tug the center successfully in a direction favorable to them so if they win or lose, they can count on some populist idea from their campaign to live on after they have lost the race.The teabagging faction of the Republican Party is hugely powerful and the Democrats are struggling to find a way to contain the energy and power that the teabaggers have over media messages in this country.

I have lived in NJ for almost 20 year and have gone through 4 Governors. NJ politics is as corrupt as you can get. Each and every one of them, both Democrat and Republican have been useless in changing the things that really matter here. We are still paying some of the highest property taxes in the country. Oddly enough, our illustrious former Governor Jim McGreevy, who totally fucked things up, managed to lower auto insurance rates which were also, at one time, probably the highest in the country. Between Corzine and Christie it was basically 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. Same shit different bag.

Hoffman did not break from the GOP and create anything at all… I’m not sure if that is supposed to be a joke, but since I’m a New Yorker, I’m going to have to clarify, just in case.The Conservative Party is the rightwing equivalent to the Working Families Party – a third-party that serves, at least in New York, to form coalitions, and to push major party candidates on the issues. For instance, last year, this is what the presidential line up looked like on a New York Ballot:* Barack Obama, Democratic, Working Families* Ralph Nader, Populist* Cynthia McKinney, Green* John McCain, Republican, Independence, Conservative* Bob Barr, LibertarianAs you can see – John McCain was the Conservative party nominee. Also the Independence party nominee.Jay Cost at RealClearPolitics blog spoke on this yesterday:

New York has long-standing third party options. One purpose of the New York Conservative Party is to act as a check on the Republican Party. Most states do not have this, and if this race had occurred in, say, Pennsylvania – where there is no such third party – Hoffman would not have had the kind of opportunity he found in the Conservative Party.This makes a big difference. This was a real three-way race because New York has real third parties. Most states don’t. Again, this makes it really hard to generalize from NY-23 to the rest of the country.

QT

Corrected! Huge thanks, QT!

You’re welcome! QT

I waited until now,the 5th before looking at the New York Papers to read about the Dems win in the 23rd district, you know there is barely anything of any substance written, ok the Yankees won something, but surely such a historic change in political terms merits at least a very close second to the Yankees win.Who are the Yankees anyway?Do they play footie?