Progressive Leverage

Obviously there’s been a lot of yelling about how progressives should “get tough” with the White House and congressional Democrats. For what it’s worth, we always need to be tough with our elected representatives, but we need to be smart about it, too.

“Getting tough” sounds great, but what’s the practical definition of “getting tough?” Stomping our feet and repeating Republican frames doesn’t really do anything other than serving as a kind of weird catharsis. We need real leverage, and we don’t have it (yet!) because the bulk of the votes in America are in the ideological middle.

We have to get tough and convince those voters in the middle that progressive policies are better. If we can do that, we can convince politicians who need those voters.

Meanwhile, and in a practical sense, it’s about congressional votes.

The reason Lieberman, Nelson and others can “get tough” is that they’re willing to allow good bills to be killed, and they know that progressives are unwilling to do the same. Healthcare reform is, in a way, “too big to fail” and they knew it. They were unscrupulous and indifferent enough to kill it if they didn’t get what they wanted. So they calculated that they could get attention and goodies if they threatened to vote no. And the only way that carries leverage is that they were seriously ready to vote no.

So in the case of healthcare reform, if we had convinced, say, Sanders and Feingold to behave more like Lieberman and Nelson, and if they had threatened to walk away, the legislation would have pulled to the right in order to get Snowe and Collins to make up the difference. The opposite simply wouldn’t work — numbers are numbers. When Lieberman and Nelson threatened to walk, where would the additional two votes have come from? There weren’t any more votes to be had on the left.

In the longer term, if progressive congress members continue to abandon the president, bills would still be passed and signed by the president. Work would still get done. But it would be entirely moderate/centrist legislation. Because if the progressives walk away without any electoral leverage, the middle will attain more power — not less.

Here’s another consequence of pushing too hard against President Obama. The progressive movement risks losing minorities who, for many reasons, identify with the president, and regard him as an icon and role model. Rightfully so. Minorities will still mostly vote Democratic, but if progressives are seen as unreasonable or unfair, minorities might not support, for example, primary challengers who are affiliated with an anti-Obama progressive movement. One of many, many, many reasons why teaming up with race-baiting teabaggers is such a profoundly bad idea, by the way.

Winning from the left is a delicate balance, and I’ve been repeating here and on Twitter that accountability is good, but suicide isn’t. We have to convince without scaring. We have to push without tripping over our own feet.

Until we have real electoral leverage, we’re more expendable than the ideological center. However, if, slowly but surely, we get incrementally progressive-ish legislation, the ideological balance in America will begin to move in our direction and we gain more leverage.

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  • Eric

    Electoral leverage – yes. In hindsight (20/20, as always) while we technically had 60 votes in the caucus, we never did in spirit. We need at least 62 or 63 so cretins like Lieberman can’t play their games.I’m not sure that ‘winning from the left’ is a concept that can be realized in any kind of long-term strategic form (and I hope I’m proved wrong, sincerely). The ‘big-tent’ approach of the Democratic party (which I think has far more upside than down) would seem to preclude this. Perhaps with a caucus of 62 or more, perhaps…One thought that kept occurring to me over the preceding weeks (and sorry if this seems untoward) but the whole legislative process of HCR reminded me of the progression of the ‘physical intimacy’ aspect in a romantic relationship: whoever wants it the least gets to make the rules.

  • GOVCHRIS1988

    You know, I always ask progressives why they threaten to stay home in 2010. They say its to punish Democrats, but I don’t get that. Ok, they lose the majority, meaning that the Republicans are back in power in Congress. Which means that everything that was progressive in the President’s platform in 2008 is put on ice. The Democrats that lose their jobs go to lobbying firms or back to whatever high paying job they had before becoming a congressperson. If the President loses in 2012, he would have a pension, secret service protection, a huge following in the international world. Basically, any elected President, even one who serves just one term,would be set for life. Him losing, means that a Republican becomes President, thus no progressive legislation is rolled through. I then ask them, after all of this, “How does you staying home in 2010 and 2012 help the Progressive movement?” They either answer, they don’t know, say that I’m using strawmen or scare tactics and such; but I believe that they don’t know.

  • IntoxiNation

    I really think on this argument we also need to start speaking up that certain blogs don’t speak for us. Of course I am talking about FDL. That fact that Jane is getting so much face time on the networks and the craziness coming out of there, we really need to distance ourselves from the lunacy or risk being pulled in.

  • eljefejeff

    Chris, these progressives said the same thing 10 years ago. They wanted to send a message to democrats. Well what happened was 8 years of a presidency that was so disastrous, the same progressive voters found their man in Obama and the rest of America was disgusted enough with the status quo that they were willing to vote a candidate whose name rhymed with Iraq Osama.Electing a republican in 2012 would have the same effect, in 2020 we might elect another liberal and within a year they’ll sour on him too.There’s a lot, and I mean A LOT of things to be disgusted with Obama for. This health care bill isn’t one of them. Imagine if Franken hadn’t won, or if Ted Stevens hadn’t been convicted. We’d have only 57 democrats, we would’ve had to get some republicans on board, and the bill would be even worse.When you think about it, this actually was a multipartisan bill. 57 democrats, a socialist, and 2 republicans(Nelson and Lieberman)

  • IntoxiNation

    Adding for some holiday laughs check out this post Blue Gal did. LOL funny.

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    What timing, Bob! I, too, believe we need to get tough with our elected officials, so I wrote a strongly-worded letter to my elected officials on my blog. It felt really, really, really good!You should try it. I can help with the name-calling. It’s one of my specialties. I promise you, Bob, the entire experience is cathartic, almost as good as an enema.

  • camel54

    Well, we did have 70% of the electorate behind the public option at one point, and that didn’t move our legislators in the slightest. I don’t think public support for progressive legislation is enough. It’s a start, but until we are willing to act instead of talk, it’s meaningless support. How best to do that, what actions to take, those are big questions that are still unanswered, but that’s what it’s going to take to get seriously progressive legislation taken seriously.

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    Camel,There are no questions as to what steps to take to enact SERIOUS, WASHINGTON-CHANGING legislation. The only thing needed is to enact lobbyists, PAC, and campaign finance reform that takes ALL of the money out of lobbying, treats PACs as one person complete with the same limits on contributions that one person has, as well as writing legislation that encourages our elected officials to stop sucking the cock of every corporate sponsor they meet.I would encourage our elected officials to use that very wording.

  • camel54

    PPP, when you’re right you’re right. But how do we get them to do those things? How do you convince the person enjoying the benefits of a bad system to change it so they can’t enjoy it as much? It’s obvious they don’t change things because we want them to, and the people with the money aren’t going to encourage that type of change.Then, how do you stop Fox from acting as a 24/7/365 campaign for republicans? If you enact campaign finance reform to make it strictly, publicly fundied, you put any party or parties other than republicans at a disadvantage. That’s just a little offshoot thought, though.You’re right, those things need to be done. With them come a whole avalanche of other things that need to be done as well. But we have no way to make that happen.

  • http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/ Political Party Pooper

    Camel, I feel your pain. But if you notice, even though Americans are one hundred percent behind making our elected officials stop their cocksucking, very few are actually demanding it. Not even Bob is really talking about it, even though he knows that this healthcare bill would have been much stronger without all the cumsplattering in Washington.And let’s not forget that our President CAMPAIGNED on changing Washington and ending lobbyist influence. I would have thought the cocksucking (Bob’s spellchecker wants me to put a space between “cock” and “sucking”…I won’t do it) legislation would have been the first thing on the agenda. Instead, it’s nowhere to be seen.These things happen because we let our elected officials remain the whores they are. Bob just spent the better part of a year writing about health care reform, along with a host of other well-known journalists and bloggers. Imagine the change we might see if they focused their attention on the cocksucking?Maybe it’s just too disgusting to write about. Maybe we really don’t want our elected officials to know that we think they kiss our babies with the same lips that just sucked the cocks of the entire board at Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Whatever the reason, until we get the balls to call a spade a spade and a cocksucker a cocksucker, nothing will change.

  • grs

    You’re right Bob. But I think the biggest roadblock to progressive legislation is corporate interest. Capitalism isn’t bad, but when corporations easily out lobby, our spend, and out maneuver against what’s best for the common public, well, we have a problem. And this is a problem. And that truly needs to be addressed with our legislators.Siding with teabaggers is not an option. That’s just silly. Teabaggers have made up their minds based on information not rooted in reality and not based on fact. There is no common ground so to speak. Once teabaggers and the religious right realize they’ve been voting against their own interest, well, then maybe something can happen with those groups.

  • roxsteady

    Excellent post Bob! It’s what Progressives need to learn moving forward. The kill the billers who would team up with teabaggers would definitely drive off this African American. Those people are offensive, unreasonable and totally irrational. Not to mention that many of them are straight up racists with their “I want my country back bullshit” What the hell does that mean? I think we all know. Those “Progressives” would likely turn off both minorities and many whites who will now lump them in with the rest of the crazies.

  • FrictionSoul

    I’m with PPP on this. It’s past due that ordinary citizens form their own PACs to get the attention of their so-called reps.I’m betting Ed PerlSwineMutterer won’t appreciate having to face his own angry constituents, not when there’s cash and gladhandling be had for him and his daughters. He most certainly doesn’t want to be held accountable. He’ll always hide behind his “it’s complicated” facade, never able to realize that farming out his daughters to suck the cocks of banker leaves jism not only their faces, but also on our toddler’s faces along with a shitload of debt.Come off it Ed. We’re onto you. Take a good look around the next time you’re at the Saturday breakfast at the Legion’s hall. I won’t be there. Neither will some of the other familiar faces. We’ll be away, figuring out how to undo the messes you’ve contributed to if our homes haven’t been foreclosed on. You’ll be there with the chorus that has one foot in the grave and so don’t really care anyways.Old people suck.

  • http://nappydiatribe.blogspot.com HumanityCritic

    PPP: “Imagine the change we might see if they focused their attention on the cocksucking?”I, for one, am glad that Bob didn’t dedicate the lions share of this blog to “cocksucking”. I frequent enough deviant websites as it is, if you were to put a blacklight over my keyboard the room would light up like Yankee Stadium.

  • http://www.osborneink.com Matt Osborne

    Bob, it’s not apologetics or religious ardor to say the bill before us is the best one for which Obama could get sixty votes. It’s called “counting,” and we all learned to do it early in life.

  • idabamaho

    Please stop equating to this bill to reform. It isn’t, and you and all the appologists here damn well know it.Koolaid anyone? There seems to be a huge supply.And by the way, comparing those of us who expect BO to do what he says and say what he means with Tea Baggers is an insult that won’t soon be forgotten. The defense of this legislation is beyond rediculous coming from the same gang who were throwing shit fits at the very notion of abandoning the PO just 2 weeks ago. You are weak and your crawling under the rug explanation is limp dicked.