The Screeching, Fire-Eating Mob

This video is disgraceful and makes me ashamed to be an American. Here we see a throng of ignorant fire-eaters protesting against Park 51 and subsequently accosting an African-American man who made the mistake of looking vaguely “Muslim-ish” (John Cole’s word).

Hey idiots, Under Armour doesn’t manufacture Islamic head gear. As Cole notes, the man replies, “All y’all dumb motherfuckers don’t even know my opinion on shit.” Dumb motherfuckers indeed.

The description under the video:

A man walks through the crowd at the Ground Zero protest and is mistaken as a Muslim. The crowd turns on him and confronts him. The man in the blue hard hat calls him a coward and tries to fight him. The tall man who I think was one of the organizers tried to get between the two men. Later I caught up with the man who’s name is Kenny. He is a Union carpenter who works at Ground Zero. We discussed what a scary moment that was for him. I told him that I hoped it did not ruin his day.

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  • GrafZeppelin127

    This gets more depressing and infuriating by the day. Bob, I don’t know how you can stand watching and sifting through all of this.

  • janice murphy hartman

    Where are all the objectors? Fox has been touting their poll that 70% or so of the people oppose the Mosque. Also, that it is one of the most important issues today. Where was everyone? You mean to tell me that out of all of NYC and NJ, approximately 450 or so people show up to protest?

  • Gretchen

    This is becoming so fucking unbelievable!!!! Like GrafZep said, it gets more depressing and infuriating. And scary, too. I get so worked up just reading what’s going on. Palin and her ilk should be so proud. God help us!!!!

  • http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com RyanC1384

    This topic is one of the most difficult for me at this moment. I don’t know what to think!On the one hand I am a staunch advocate of American values and sticking up for freedom of religion and understanding.On the other I believe that Islam is not a religion of peace and can understand the sensitivities that many people have toward a mosque being built at ground zero.I am on the side of allowing the mosque to be built because emotions dissipate over time and we should not make decisions based on fear during a specific moment. In 100 years nobody will feel the same as they do now, but our American values must endure.I also believe that its entirely possible that the marriage of the Islamic tenants and apocalyptic weapons could be the reason we don’t see another 100 years on this planet.Made me think of this clip from Religilous:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjqXt_wRkS8http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com/

  • jaywillie

    Islam is no less a religion of peace than Christianity, or have we forgotten WESTERN HISTORY, Ryan? Do really think there aren’t people right now, on this planet, committing violence in the name of Christianity?The people behind this community center (it’s not a goddamn mosque) are Sufi’s AND American citizens.And who were the first people to use atomic weapons?These are sad, dark days for the United States.

  • http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com RyanC1384

    I am not here to argue that one religion is less violent than another based on historical trends. If I were to do that I’d say that the Christians have kicked the Muslims ass.The problem is that the Islamic world has failed to travel through an enlightenment, while Christians have. These holy books stem from the bronze age when we did not know what an atom or germ were.

  • http://broadwaycarl.blogspot.com Broadway Carl

    It’s a sad day to be an American and specifically, a New Yorker.

  • MoeLarryAndJesus

    I’m waiting for josephS to post here saying he doesn’t condone the teabaggers going into autolynch mode when they see a black guy, but he understands it.

  • hollyglightly123

    RyanC1384: I believe that one the venomous hate on the right, coupled with a powerful media mouthpiece may mean the destruction of the US over the next 100 years. I don’t recognize this country. Soooooo much disgust with anyone non-white. Between the extreme measures taken in security (ie. the body scanners that reveal every curve of my body), the intrusion into my privacy (wire-tapping surveillance), the opposition to about FIVE different mosques being built in various states across the country, one could argue that we’ve taken the Constitution of the US and begun using it as toilet paper.By saying that Islam is not a religion of peace based on the actions of a very loud and dangerous few, you’re essentially giving credence to every label we give a large group of people based on the actions of a few. All Christians are hateful intolerant people, right? All Blacks are lazy right? How could you believe that a religion practiced by 1.5 billion is a religion of evil and violence? If that were the case, then given how devout most Muslims are, there’d be non-stop violence committed by Muslims all day every day in every country throughout the world. It’s asinine!!!!

  • Nicole473

    jaywillie—>>>Do really think there aren’t people right now, on this planet, committing violence in the name of Christianity?Indeed. In fact, the violence of Christians continues today in the Congo.Also, in the recent past, Rwanda. 900,000 killed in a country where 90% are Christians.Or, think Bosnia. Over 300,000 Muslims killed, and 100k Muslim women raped by Christian Serbs between 1992-1995.Organized religion has been the cause of most of the wars carried out by humankind.

  • Nicole473

    Despicable behavior toward that man in the video by morons.

  • ceu

    Ryan, what you’re failing to consider is that there are Americans who are Muslim & who are just as up-to-date as everyone else who lives here.And not all Christians have gone thru an enlightenment…in fact, a whole lot of them have seemed to regress.Freedom of religion isn’t just an American value – it’s a goddamn right! It’s guaranteed by the Constitution & it’s not to be abridged by gov’t. Congress – GOP – was concerned enough about this issue that in 2003 or 04 (IIRC) they passed a law prohibiting local gov’ts from changing zoning laws to keep certain religions out.What happened today to Kenny will happen again & much more violently, I’m afraid, perpetrated by those who claim to love America, the Constitution, and “American values” – whatever they are these days.

  • hollyglightly123

    Ryan, I truly believe that one of the biggest causes of all of this is a truly uneducated view of Islam. I just really wish that people would take some time out to learn a bit more about something before standing in judgment of it. So many people talk about how Muslims are trying to bring Shariah to this country, for instance. Who? When? How? Maybe Al Qaeda wants to do that but we ALL agree that they’re off their rocker. Muslims aren’t trying to bring Sharia into the US. In Islam, you’re not supposed to proselytize. So how is there this agenda to bring public stoning and Sharia to the US?Someone mentioned earlier that the founders of the MCC are of the Sufi sect. Rumi of the Sufi sect is a man who’s teachings and poems are quoted by the likes of Thich Nat Han. Sufism represents the aescetic, spiritual, open, mystical part of the religion. Here we have a moderate, American Muslim man trying to establish a community center that will engage interfaith dialogue and what are we doing to him? Demonizing him and saying he’s going to finance his center through the help of Hamas, Hezbollah and so he’s a radical terrorist. This is a man we should be lifting up!!I’m not trying to slam you. I just implore you to learn a bit more about Islam and also trust that 1.5 billion followers of the religion, 99.99% of which go about their day peacefully, are not the work of the devil.

  • hollyglightly123

    I live in NYC and so they’ve been showing the protests all day on the local news. They showed a clip of an 11-year-old kid SCREAMING at a community center supporter “They killed our people. They killed thousands of Americans”. They. You know, Imam Feisal killed thousands of Americans. And you know that ALL those Americans were Christians right?Out of the mouth of a babe. Sooooo so sad and scary.

  • http://www.joelksmock.blogspot.com Joel K Smock

    Readers here and elsewhere might find it helpful to be reminded that the natural numbers we rely on in mathematics when we count things and people, including billions of dollars, are, according to many sources, arabic numbers. Yes, arabic (Gingrich obvsiously needs to enroll in his nearby university.) No, I did not invent this. This is simply what a lot of scholars suggest, and it seems highly likely to be the case. Obviously, the throng of protesters (Christians, I guess, though some Christians, I’m sure, would probably admit to being embarrassed) in the video do not understand this.

  • jaywillie

    thanks, Nicole. Everyone would do well to remind themselves of the information you provide.

  • Lexaburn

    Yeah, I heard this nonsense was going on today. No one around the area gave a damn. Only the tourists and the media dorks. Most around here (I live near the area, about ten or so blocks down) have settled on the community center being built somewhere else, not to appease the simpletons and their handlers, but to take themselves out of the equation. Most NYers, along with my neighbors and I know damned well the con-servascoundrels behind this nonsense couldn’t pull that anti-immigration/Mexican shit here in NYC, so this is the card they pulled: the anti-”Ground Zero Mosque.” It’s all 9/11 exploitation. It will not benefit the Cons in NY. It’s not like they care. They are too busy stroking the dumdums in other districts around the country.To counter all this idiocy, we need to inform everyone of the upcoming elections. Most assuredly the kids that believe in President Obama and feel that there are forces gathered against him. You cannot hide anything from these kids. They know the score. All the others, like the ones Ed Schultz and co. are trying to suppress, they’re fired up, from all my observations. Our goal is to show that the shenanigans of the GOP do nothing but give the complicit establishment media something shiny to play with. We need to show that these games being played aren’t entertaining, particularly attractive. It’s a damned shame that the Republicon base is spurred to action by such fraudulent displays. It’s a shame that they’ve become so pitiful. It’s repulsive.GOTV, people.Let’s do this.

  • jaywillie

    Someone over at LGF linked to this video of the same event (closer camera angle): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_N0F63eSEk

  • MoeLarryAndJesus

    RyanC writes: “Islamic tenants”I think you mean “tenets,” unless you’re saying you won’t rent to Muslims.

  • Lexaburn

    All the closeted teabaggers in NY will crawl back under their rocks after today. They know this bullshit doesn’t play in NY. These are holdovers from the days of Ghouliani, that feel they have to do their part to support the fleeting Republicons in the five boroughs. Their numbers are not that great. They see this as something akin to the days of Ghouliani v.s. Khallid Muhammad. We’ll show ‘em.

  • Lexaburn

    I tell you all do not be discouraged by these idiotic displays. The GOP and the charlatans have to do this because no one is attracted to their policies beyond these “emotional” outbursts. America is not suffering these fools in the manner the media would have you believe. This is all a concerted effort by elements within complicit swine media and the GOP to relay the illusion that this type of nonsense attracts voters. Don’t believe the hype. This display today was for the rubes in the red states, and will be forgotten in about three days, even with the local media coverage.

  • http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com RyanC1384

    @ hollyglightly12: I would agree with you that since 9/11 we have seen our constitutional rights trampled on, mostly by fear. Osama Bin Laden said his goal was to bankrupt America and bring it to it’s knees as a world power…well I’m sorry to say he is winning this battle, and the right wing is assisting by stoking the fear which he brought to our shores 9 years ago.The way I know Islam is not a religion of peace is by the actions of its followers. You may say that it’s a small few, but with apocalyptic weapon technology becoming available to more and more that excuse doesn’t really help your cause.If you think that the (U.S.A.; Britain; Israel) occupation of certain countries forms the root of Islamic extremism…ask yourself: Where are the Tibetan suicide bombers? Something like a million – 1.2 million Tibetan’s have died since the Chinese occupation. Where are the Tibetan’s blowing themselves up on Chinese busses, at weddings, in crowds of children? It’s not happening, and not likely to happen.Simply put, we are at war with fundamentalist Islam, it contains an imperative to subjugate, convert or kill infidels.My reasoning comes from 3 places: A. Reading the biographies of the 19 hijackers. B. Hearing and Reading about what the Quran & Hadith state. C. Refusing to be a religious moderateThe terrorists who flew planes into buildings were middle class or better, college educated (many with PHD’s) and most educated in the West. They spent most of their time at a Mosque in Hamburg, Germany discussing the pleasures that await martyrs in paradise…not complaining about American interventions in the Middle East.There are multiple places within the holy book where it is ordered to kill infidels. Christians are told to do this as well (stoning your wife if she is not a virgin on your wedding day) but have outgrown most of their barbarism by passing through the enlightenment…Muslims have not done so as of yet.Religious moderates don’t know what it’s like to be certain that the book they read is the perfect word of the creator of the universe. You have to wrap your head around the idea that these fundamentalists are willing to die for the cause because they truly believe in their God. It’s both scary and difficult but I doubt humans stick around much longer if we don’t come to grip with the truth.

  • aview999

    Lexaburn:”do not be discouraged by these idiotic displays – This is all a concerted effort by elements within complicit swine media and the GOP to relay the illusion that this type of nonsense attracts voters. Don’t believe the hype.” ~snip~How can you brush this off so easily??? THINK about it:9/11 was an inside job = if nothing else it was it was “allowed” to happen. Whos’ to say another one isn’t “in the works”? The climate is right, tempers are high – DO NOT EVER put it past them to do it again.

  • Alex00

    The way I know Islam is not a religion of peace is by the actions of its followers. You may say that it’s a small few, but with apocalyptic weapon technology becoming available to more and more that excuse doesn’t really help your cause.

    Aaaaaaand you’re done. It seems to me that Nicole already gave you two prime examples of Christianity bringing about it’s own little apocalypse just fine with the old fashion version of mass genocide.As a response for the rest of your psychobabble I’ll just re-post what hollyglightly has already stated and what you’ve clearly failed to grasp.

    By saying that Islam is not a religion of peace based on the actions of a very loud and dangerous few, you’re essentially giving credence to every label we give a large group of people based on the actions of a few. All Christians are hateful intolerant people, right? All Blacks are lazy right? How could you believe that a religion practiced by 1.5 billion is a religion of evil and violence? If that were the case, then given how devout most Muslims are, there’d be non-stop violence committed by Muslims all day every day in every country throughout the world. It’s asinine!!!!

  • josephS

    @MoeLarryAndJesus – I’ve never impied what you are suggesting, and I sure as hell don’t condone the thug behavior at that protest. That kind of behavior I don’t “understand” any more than you do. I don’t have any problem with the cultural center myself, more power to it.Hasta luego, qui no sabe!

  • MB

    Samwell aka: lemmicrat lexaburn speak for yourself you Frickin’ yellow bellied piss ant. Obowlma squandered the best opportunity to change things. Instead he pushed through bills of turds.Take health care, in 2012 the IRS will make sure you pay your health insurance premiums or else. Why not medicare? Guess you really like the IRS,you schmuck.Oblah blah Obama is just more of the same slick shit brick. Obama, Iran is well on its way to making a really large firework… I hope Israel knocks Iran’s shit off before they obtain the atomic material they need to attack Israel or give to some freakin’ Islamic extremist to fry Samwell’s neighborhood.Fuck, our present day 2010 is becoming Orwell’s 1984 and the minute of hate.The mob is the mob, repubiklan, lemmicrat, or democrat. And I agree with sidecar that all religion serves as a method to pacify a person’s fear of their own mortality. I disagree that most wars are fought over religion. Religion is used to motivate the sheeple to kill and maim themselves so that the kleptocratic elite can maintain their obscene standard of living at the expense of another’s hard work.

  • brutlyhonest

    A) MB is of his/her/its meds

    2) Pop quiz Ryan: Who were the first suicide bombers?

  • Lexaburn

    Ah, if it isn’t the little “MB” troll/scrub that felt like issuing hollow threats last week. I meant to tell your lying ass that I have no plans to take you up on your little offer, sociopath. See, I’m not criminally stupid like you are, so I’ll not spoil my reputation as a professional chasing specters you dole out while you’re bluffing your way through a flame thread. Bob closed the thread before I could get the chance to scoff and ridicule your mock umbrage, you clown. Googling recruitment centers within the five boroughs will not make you any more convincing as a serviceman.You must think you’re unique. In fact, you are the fourth dickhead claiming military credentials to have threatened me on this blog, bitch. However, yours was the most laughable, as you request that I file a complaint to a random recruitment center in order to hunt down a Nazi troll that I cussed out on the ‘Net. It always boils down to you frauds claiming to “stomp a mudhole” in everyone that sees through your masquerade. Yes, that’s some excellent military jargon you’ve glommed from every military flick released in the last thirty or so years. Oh, and some WWF-style heel-peddling, to boot.Con-servaknave, I’ve had junkies, alchies, pimps, pushers, and unruly patients hollering things at me. You think your Walter Mitty-style antics impress? Even your delusions are cliched, you mental case. You’d be in a straight jacket if you’d issued that empty threat of yours in the presence of my colleagues, and I would be the one telling them to loosen the restraints because you’re not in your right mind.I’m in the health care field, you fucking schmendrick. Anything you have to say on the matter is like so much piffle. Arguing on these matters like your blockheaded heroes in the swine media will not benefit you. Simpleton, I have private health care insurance. I can afford to have as much. This health care debate wasn’t even on my radar last year, that is until it became apparent that it serves as yet another opportunity for the self-indulgent “liberal” activists, the ever sophomoric Republicons, and impressionable trendoids mimicking all they see, read, and hear to wail. Go cry about mandates and other such minutia to someone that gives a shit that you’re upset at the Democrat president. You’ll find those bozos showing up to the mini Klan rally, as well as those without and within the so-called “liberal media” to find your concerns worth airing for entertainment purposes.Your attempts to claim Orwell’s prescience and self-awareness are most pathetic. You’re the one here aiming random invectives at President Obama as if he’s Goldstein. You’re the one regurgitating bromides, nonsequiturs, and hate speech you only think makes you read like an opinionated imbecile. You read like a goddamned demented delinquent trying to cause trouble.Oh, and it’s “Two Minutes Hate,” you fucking illiterate.As for your attempts to gain favor with another in order to bolster your standing here, who’s prompting you to be a zealot, ya sheep? I wipe my ass with your atheist spiel in the manner I scrub the floors with your flimsy arguments against building a community center anywhere in NYC.Go stare at some more YouTube videos for lame material while you huff spray paint, you con-servaknave weakling.

  • Lexaburn

    By the way, to anyone that chooses to take excerpts from any of my comments, try not to omit the points I’m trying to make.Aview999, I’m fully aware that there are malefactors out here willing to take advantage of willful idiots the likes of which this “MB” troll mimics. From “failed underwear bombers” to “failed Times Sq. bombers,” I know that the establishment media and its unofficial accomplices (social and economic con-servatives) is in the business of making mountains out of molehills in order to keep gullible people watching their moronic cable “news” programs and keeping the GOP near power, no matter how fleeting or flourishing. Look at how the national Republicons are trying to turn a local building dispute into an intellectually dishonest national argument. Now the Cons like it when people are being emotional. Always talking out of two sides of their mouths, these con-servaknaves, all for the benefit of corporate backers. On 9/11/01, most of those I talked with recalled the threat made in ’93 of knocking over the Twin Towers before we ever heard a media dork bring it up. Some of us figured this was a convenient excuse back then, and we still do. Say I’m a conspiracy theorists if you want, but this whole thing is appearing more and more fishy. We see how callous they are when stoking intolerance. These instances will never touch some of these individuals claiming “emotion” over everything else, in light of this community center. It is folks I travel to work with that would care about this matter, if they weren’t so busy with their own lives. Those are the people susceptible to the mind games, not us who actually live here. Their hiding behind the victims’ families is all apart of the pathology. It’s what the guilty do when they are cornered. It is also when the guilty are at their most dangerous, when the fooled choose to not get fooled again.My point is rational individuals (especially in NY) know how to tell the difference between real threats, and those dredged up by the morally and intellectually bankrupt Republicon Party for the sake of appearing relevant. They’re so afraid that President Obama is going to own any particular issue, including national security, they appear to have lost their minds. They more afraid of a wary populace than they are of ANY terrorist. In fact, they steal the methods they claim the terrorists use to gain influence. You look into this stuff, and you’ll begin to see the parallels. They are the closest thing America has to intellectual terrorist. It goes without saying that I feel they are most unpatriotic, and this is a point that I will not argue with any idiot that visits this blog or anywhere else repeating stupid shit Republicons say in public.

  • Lexaburn

    By the way, troll/scrub, if you feel that way about wars, why’d you enlist in your fantasies.Could it have all been bullshit in order to bolster your standing here in light of your being cast as an intellectual punching bag.As noted, you flakes like hiding behind “the troops” when someone informs you of your askew logic. It relays the fact that you simpletons have no formal education and/or self-awareness before entering the service. You morons fuck that whole side of the equation up when you start claiming expertise on all things you decide are worth arguing with Democrats about.Can’t have it both ways, con-servaknaves and those trying to read like them. Either you’re goddamned imbeciles, or blithering idiots.We’ll see who the fraud-peddlers like “MB” claim allegiance to in 2012. I recall the ass claiming that Christie or Mittens would be his choices. Noting again that Mittens would be guilty of half the shit Obama has done as president when he was governor, coupled with the fact that his pops was Mormon bigwig, the only reason you bring him up is because he looks like St. Ronny. Christie is incapable of running anything other than his mouth on FNC. He’ll lose in his own district in a presidential election. He knows it, so fuck what you think, simpleton.Stop letting the fraud-peddling talk radio chickenshits fill your head up with whipped cream, dumdum.Con-servaknaves got NOTHIN’!!!

  • http://tarackian.deviantart.com J M Ashby

    Lexaburn ate his Wheaties this morning.

  • MB

    Samwell aka: lemmicrat lexiburn:Let me be real clear you two balled bitch, I gave you a real easy way to contact me, you cowardly over wordy dip shit. And its not WWE, but Mixed Maritial Arts you dirty shit bag. Your a coward plain and simple.And your a lousy unhappy little twit and if you really are in the mental health field, your more likely to be a Nami aid receiver than any kind of mental health professional.If your colleagues knew your moniker and correlated it to your true identity, they would lobotomize your ass. Get something clear,ass wipe, I did not threaten you. I called you out you COWARD. This country was founded on brave men and women and has grown into the a great nation on the sacrifices of men and women who have spilled their blood to preserve the freedoms that you so readily enjoy and clearly abuse. So bitch tits when you want to man up, I will be waiting.Who gives a rat’s shit that you can afford a private health plan, BFD. News Flash you selfish waste of skin, it’s not about you. Your reference to atheism is also off base you spiteful little man. I know it is beyond your frail mental capabilities to practice any kind of empirical methods, so keep your long winded and overly verbose ramblings to yourself and your so called patients.So here is your profile: Your single, most likely divorced. You a mommy’s boy as your father was absent from your childhood. You lie frequently and you are bereft of any kind of empathy for your fellow human being. You perceive others as objects rather than sentient beings worthy of respect and dignity. You are a coward and your childless. Death scares you and you frequently find yourself having suicidal thoughts. Additionally you are a misogynist and have no real friends because you cannot be a friend to anyone.Your rants and raves on veterans offend me, so if you had any moral compass or backbone you would simply post the name of who you talked to on the phone discretely and you would receive an invitation to back up all your false bravado with a veteran that would rock your shit provided you signed the proper releases. Your a hot airbag and you steal others ideas and attempt to take credit for them as your own. Such is the point you made regarding a local building dispute which you lifted from me for I pointed out that Obama had no business making a comment on it in the first place.In summary you know how to contact me, I have been very clear that I do not like you nor appreciate your disparaging remarks about my military service and veterans in general. The good news is that you are one day closer to your death today than you were yesterday.

  • Lexaburn

    Good lord!”Two balled bitch”?What is one in your mouth waiting for the other, chump?As I told you, I’m not in the business of chasing around the mentally ill, con-servaknave with low reading comprehension. There was a time when I treated those of your ilk in facilities not unlike the one you’ve obviously escaped from. I now offer my services at a private practice, so in other words, you give ME a call if you’re in need of my services, ya fugging bluffer. You know damned well I’m not going to try and contact you. I’d end up appearing as foolish as you clods do getting all riled up over Republicons mentioning mosques and the existence of Muslims, you Pavlovian whelp.It is not in my nature to attempt to comprehend the fantasies of the fantastical. In your repeated attempts at heckling me over my verbosity, it appears you feel the need to be verbose yourself. Your entire counterpoint is boiled down to your dignifying and parroting disgraced politicians’ fleeting attempts at capturing attention. Your attempts at belittling my pseudonym are laughable when you were either too lazy, or too frightened to be anything more than a capital “MB,” short for “My Bitch.”Stupid ass too dumb to understand that threatening to “stomp” someone isn’t a threat. Dumb con-servaknave idjit.That little profile you doled out is as fantastical as your delusions about serving in the military, chump. Not that I feel the need to defend myself to a troll begging me to contact him, but I’m a single man in a stable relationship with a native New Yorker female. I have been in the mental health field for the last decade, including profiling potential criminals like yourself. I’ve been within the faculty of five facilities throughout the borough of Brooklyn before I left government employment for a private practice about three years ago. I primarily deal in family counseling, including adolescent care, grief counseling, and occasionally suicide prevention and drug and alcohol abuse.You want to speculate on someone’s career, simpleton, you must first stop aping the attitude of idiot Republicons bent on proving the lengths of their own stupidity, peon.I don’t give a shit what offends you in this forum, imbecile. You can take a bow and get the fuck out or stay and continue to be offended.You hold your breath waiting for me to contact you, ignoramus. You hold it even after it dawns on you that I’m not a fucking idiot that takes the word of a Nazi troll seriously.Now stop flirting with me over the Internet, you fruitcake. Go back to stalking YouTube celebrities, dork.

  • Lexaburn

    I press you all to (if interested), check out the last time this ignoramus attempting to flame me and see if half his more recent insults aren’t variations on the ones I aimed at him. This is what these ignorant con-servaknave chumps do when they know that they’re outmatched, outwitted, and outgunned intellectually. This latest stupid ass thinks I forgot all the stupid shit he said in my presence, including his harping on my verbosity like everyone else I’ve argued with on here. Fucking lurker thinks he’s brand new with the putdowns.He speaks about my being lobotomized for slamming him rhetorically. Fucking dork, if anything, I’d be put on notice for kicking a defenseless con-servaknave puppy.I mean read this ignorant mental case going on and on about “sacrifices” and other such platitudes. This idiot must think this is FNC. You fugging moron, I’ve observed your shithead heroes when they’re off the air mocking you clowns off the record. When they’re away from the cameras and the media dork roundtables, they open up on how they just say whatever comes to mind when they’re on the air at the FNC studios. They traipse around in swanky NY restaurants as if they’re actually celebrities and not people to be looked down on. I’ve observed one or two of them getting cussed out by patrons. It’s fucking imbeciles like you that attempt to sound like these dorks and fumble the whole presentation. Pull five or six more “patriotic” platitudes from your rectum like a spastic monkey, why don’t you. I mean, it’s what you think makes you read like an authentic FNC idiot, as opposed to an idiot trying to read authentic to an individual that occasionally watched FNC.All this bravado of yours. The “man up” bullshit. The “stomp a mudhole” gibberish. You read like a drunk Ralph Furley trotting out all that shit you think makes you read like you’ve been in a fight. You trot that bullshit out where I’m from, and you’ll get robbed, shot, and stabbed. Do you really believe that borderline schoolyard bully bullshit works beyond whatever delusion you’ve concocted in your damn-near empty skull?I’m going to “man up” and call a recruitment center, wasting their precious time and my own in search of a fucking idiot that trolls liberal blogs.It appears that you don’t feel quite as satisfied with your masculine presentation here, chump. What will you do when it dawns on you that you’re still the same deluded idiot ofline as well as on, chump? What virtual setting will you escape to then, con-servaknave whelp?You gonna pull a Timothy McViegh, liar?

  • Nicole473

    Just so we’re all laboring under the same delusions…The troll, MB, is a birther, pretending to be a dem, who showed up in another thread a week or two ago.Back to you, Lex. :)

  • MB

    Samwell aka: lemmicrat lexiburn,Look dill hole, I never threatened you because you have the choice to man up, or puss out you big shit talker. I said that after you signed off on the necessary releases, I would stomp a mudhole in your ass. It’s called mutual combat Coward. It’s called being called out. Its an invitation to be brave and step into the ring. I know you cannot fathom that because you never had a genuine man in your childhood.Go sit in your failing practice, out of your mommy’s basement where you talk to your dollies and pretend you are a licensed therapist. HA HA the thought of you accepting a fight is funny because deep down your a chicken shit. Also you were terminated from government service, your move to private practice is all that you have left and your failing at that as well.You see lexiBUM the difference between you and I is that I believe some things are worth fighting for and I will take a stand on values and principals that are noble, whereas you are a measly and petty small thinking man unable to secure tenure. You have no children, you are in your mid forties and your female friend will dump you like those before when they just cannot cope with your negative and self destructive tendencies. You cannot even recognize and describe your lady as a woman but rather describe her a native new yorker female? Are ya sure? Keep masturbating there Samwell, blow up dolls are not people.BTW you are in the business of chasing the mentally ill, dumb-ass. Your a fraud, a conman,and your diabetic as well, unable to sustain an erection. Enjoy playing make believe with your dollies, lollipop.

  • http://www.politicalruminations.com/ Nicole473

    The thread where MB, birther, first made it’s appearance.

  • Lexaburn

    Ignoramus, if it’s not about me, why the hell did you even bother bringing the shit up in your little love letter to me? I take it you’re high on spray paint and spewing forth over random subjects. You leap from bitching about “Obamacare” to cheering on Israel blowing up Muslims like a neocon lackey with your face to the ass of Cheney.Fucking idiot, I’ll inform you now that at least two of my colleagues are aware of my history of cursing out your chump ass. See, this is a common occurrence online, and you are not the first idiot repeating FNC memes like a jukebox one has to kick in order for it to play the right tune. A few have had their own contact with idiots of your low caliber. I know a few here can indulge in having multiple run-ins with shit-stupid con-servaknave idiots that try to act like their craven con-servaknave heroes online. Again, you are not unique in that respect or any other.That’s not to say that I’m unique. I’m sure that in your quests for trolling you’ve run into many individuals like myself that will inform you that you’re an idiot. You mistake their ridicule for compliments, and you believe that they are invested in proving their worth to an ignoramus like yourself. As with everything you commit to, you are incorrect in one of your assumptions.Go on and issue another “No U!” that I’ll scoff at, ignorant con-servaknave whelp.And cease with the fucking up Orwell’s literary vision with your delusions.

  • MB

    Sidecar aka: Nicole473,Your back to your one sentence paragraphs. Great Job! I do agree with you on the organized religion. I just wanted to offer a alternative viewpoint as to how religion gives extra leverage to the kleptocracy rather than the root cause of war.Go help your buddy Samwell because he is a stuttering contradiction who is most like walking around stuttering and talking to himself. You can put the twinkies down now………

  • http://www.politicalruminations.com/ Nicole473

    MB, as I told you before, Birthers have ZERO credibility. Stop wasting our time.

  • Lexaburn

    Oh, I see the “Lexibum” insult is once again trotted out.Hey, genius, check the archives for that little insult o’ yours. It was doled out at least a year ago by another bozo.Seriously, read your bullshit back to yourself. Seriously.”Mutual combat”? I’ve never HAD a genuine man in my childhood? “Failing practice”?Aww, I think you’re trying to hurt my feelings or something, whelp.And you would know about blow up dolls not being people, con-servaknave schmendrick. I’m sure you own a few that resemble Raggedy Ann, Quitter Queen Palin, and any other unfortunate female (con-servative or no) in your sights. Don’t worry about my native NYer friends, bitch, ‘cuz they ain’t worried about you or the “Ground Zero Mosque” of which you’re frightened.Intellectually, you just tossing what you think sounds witty and/or insulting. You’re like Quitter Queen Palin when she’s discussing anything beyond Todd’s fishing or her kids.Do you actually think you’re insulting me with that presentation of yours? That right there is an insult.I’m offended you think that slapdash word jumble of yours actually makes me feel sorry for being a success in all my endeavors.Keep aspiring to be the grime embedded in my $200 loafers, buck private.

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: Lexabum you can never treat one such as myself. I am to forgone into my delusions to be helped. No matter how much you pay me, I will stay just as dumb as I was when I came out of the womb. So nyeh!

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: Duh-hyuck, won’t you look silly asking for “random ignorant asshole from the Internet blog” when you call up that recruitment center. Duh-hyuck!

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: My momma done told me that my fears are well-founded in fact. She knows because she watches the little men and women on the TV box thing in our house.P.S.She didn’t listen when they told her to vote for the obombar hussien commie muslin.

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: Ah-hah, you don;t know the joy of having a man in your childhood, Lexabum! You don’t know what it feels like to have him caress you in your private places and promise to cut your taxes and repeal Obamacare. Ah-hah!

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: Sarah Palin is honorable enough to be my own mother…or lover. Or both!

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: I’m offended that you think I’m lying about my military service. Allow me to increase my dimwitted rhetoric tenfold like the professional wrestlers do when they smacktalk. This will convey the fact that I’m a naive servicemen that stands up for America. It worked for he-who-shall-not-be-discussed i.e. Dubya.

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: I agree that all religions are used to huddle the sheep. This is why I’ve pledged my allegiance to the cult of incoherence. Observe as I indulge in our one of our tenets, “Thou Shalt Be Oblivious To Your Own Stupidity On Internet Forums.”

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: When people call you “Beetle Bailey,” is it an insult? I’m asking for a…friend, btw.

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: Obowlma’s Clark Griswald! Duh-hyuck.You know, the guy from Vacation.You know that movie about the guy and his family going on Vacation.Chevy Chase played that guy I’m talking about. He was on SNL when it first started out. No, not Clark Griswald, but Chevy Chase. That’s the guy from SNL that I’m talking about, duh-hyuck!Yeah, Obama, oh,uh, I mean OBOWLMA is him.No, not Chevy Chase, but the Clark Griswald guy…

  • Lexaburn

    Shorter “MB”: Duh-hyuck, Twinkies are no good. You need to smoke actual Crack to see where I’m coming from, Sidecar. Only by becoming an allout basehead can you know the joys of taking con-servative Republicons seriously as politicians or human beings.America! Fuck Yeah!

  • fibsconnie

    Isn’t it about time that area gets renamed something other than having “freedom” in its name? It doesn’t seem like many people want too much freedom in the area.

  • http://www.politicalruminations.com/ Nicole473

    MB, the Birther troll said:

    Your back to your one sentence paragraphs. Great Job!

    Sometimes one sentence is enough. Particularly when it denotes a troll’s most glaring attribute.

  • http://www.politicalruminations.com/ Nicole473

    MB, the birther troll said:

    You can put the twinkies down now………

    I don’t eat Twinkies. I prefer healthier fare.

  • http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com RyanC1384

    2) Pop quiz Ryan: Who were the first suicide bombers?

    Answer : The Kamikaze Pilots of World War II?Wow, this thread really got out of hand.I have a pop quiz for MB…what is the biggest entitlement plan of all?Answer : The U.S. Military

  • JackDanieL

    i absolutely LOVE it when people threaten others on political forums….its kind of like a camoflage ballcap, it lets me know that you are a douchebag from waaaay down the street

  • nawog

    As I was shopping in the Fort Carson PX, I noticed a soldier of Arabic heritage. I thought this guy is risking his life overseas while hatred is directed toward his culture over here. Just went to a party with another solder about to go back there. Americans are not making their jobs easier.

  • John Q

    What a bunch of dumb-asses. They assume a guy is a Muslim because he’s black and wearing an under-armor doo-rag? What a bunch of friggin idiots.It doesn’t look like there were that many people at the protest. Most of the people look like tourists passing by and people taking photographs.

  • http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com RyanC1384

    With all the rhetoric and fear being spewed around recently…it sure was difficult to go back and watch Obama’s speech to the Muslim world. Seems like empty words today. Maybe it will do some of you folks some good to watch:http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com/2010/08/rnc-committeewoman-claims-obama-said-he-was-a-muslim/

  • MB

    To Samwell aka: Lemmicrat lexaburn, Truth hurts, and your many posts just reinforce the reality that you have far to much time on your hands. Most likely because you have no patients or friends.Sidecar Nicole473 no need to strain yourself. You, too are childless and self-indulgent. Your contribution to our society, you eat.. The image of both of you eating the nuts out of each others scat seems appropriate as you are probable one and the same person.Nawog, so true. I have long held the viewpoint that our military capabilities prevent our currency from losing its value. The mob illustrates everyone’s tendencies to act in a very dangerous manner toward the “minority” interest.

  • JackDanieL

    And you have officially taken the discussion to elementary playground statusWay to go bud!

  • Dr. Squid

    It’s a wonder how someone with a Section 8 can earn anything beyond SSI.

  • likala

    I’m appalled not only by the way the crowd behaved against that man, but also by how many of them got in his personal space and put their hands on him. I don’t care if they were on his side or trying to be nice to him, it’s just not ok for strangers to do that!The poor guy probably allowed it so as not to rile anyone up any further. How sad!!

  • Lexaburn

    “Truth hurts, and your many posts just reinforce the reality that you have far to much time on your hands. Most likely because you have no patients or friends.” – “MB” aka My BitchLet me translate this for those not used to dealing with idiots taking plays from Karl Rove:Ouch! The truth hurts, Lexaburn! How may of your posts do I have to read to get it through my thick skull that I am the object of ridicule? I have far too much time on my hands, no patience, and not even the teabaggers I empathize with will be my friend. I’m seeking help dealing with my psycosis, which is why I’m requesting (or begging) for Lexaburn’s assistance.”Sidecar Nicole473 no need to strain yourself. You, too are childless and self-indulgent. Your contribution to our society, you eat.. The image of both of you eating the nuts out of each others scat seems appropriate as you are probable one and the same person.” – “MB” aka My BitchOnce again, a con-servaknave’s words need a literal translation beyond to bluster:”Nicole, it strains me to even post again after so thorough a smackdown, but I am compelled to post drivel the way a canine (of which I’m related) chases cars. My contribution to society is minuscule since I’m very childish and self-indulgent. I have the imagination of a sexual deviant, which is par for the course with my being an ignorant teabagger bitch whose ideas are based in scatology. I’m confused as to which individual I mean to offend, or whether I’m offending anyone at all.”Nawog, so true. I have long held the viewpoint that our military capabilities prevent our currency from losing its value. The mob illustrates everyone’s tendencies to act in a very dangerous manner toward the “minority” interest.” – “MB” aka My BitchHeh! Whatever, man:”Nawog, it is so true what you are saying (help me stave off the people ridiculing me – PLEASE!). I would have been compelled to join the mob shouting at brown people I confuse for Muslims two Sundays ago, but since then I’ve decided to switch up my tactics in light of my being called out for lying about military service. (really, I need to gain the ear of a sympathetic “lemmicrat” voice I’ll later lambaste)”

  • Lexaburn

    “MB” aka My Bitch is so transparent with his latest approach. It is unfortunate a few of you are taken in by his bipolar presentation. You must understand that this idiot is five seconds from being one of the ignoramuses hollering epithets at the carpenter in the video.Shit, he probably would have had one of those idiots American flag shirts on as he did it, to boot. He would have been right there in the middle of NY making a damn fool out of himself for the sake of the Republicon astroturf providers and the “liberal media” cameras. He would have wore out his voice yelling canned phrases in opposition to the “Ground Zero Mosque” like all the other rubes and gullibulls the local GOPricks attracted. He’d have held up deliberately misspelled signs provided to him by the corporate sponsors of the astroturf operation. He’d have felt a fleeting sense of passion as he joined all the other asses blocking NY traffic for the sake of a Republicon stunt.Do not be fooled by the Glenn Speck-style ignoramus attempting to compliment those that do not immediately see through his act.

  • The Dork Knight

    Boy do I feel rather dumber for having read some of the massive flame war between Lex and MB. Should’nt this kind of back and forth idiocy be confined to aint it cool talkbacks?

  • Lexaburn

    You know, I’ve sampled the AICN talkbacks a time or two, and it never fails that someone, seemingly taking the stance as outside observer, feels the need to comment on a flame war having nothing to do with them. I think they believe this disavows them from the preceding events. Speaking for myself, I know that my involvement did exacerbate the situation, but it’s not like the “MB” troll did not come here to derail civil discourse to begin with. Two Sundays ago, this “MB” troll hectored Bob for not taking “Birther” argument seriously, while hiding behind the guise of a concerned liberal. This haphazard display needed to be called out immediately, and it was before I’d ever arrived and met the ire of the pathetic weakling.Matter of fact, these flame wars are not limited to any thread on AICN or Mr. Cesca’s blogposts, but Internet talkback, message forums, comments threads etc throughout. Simply put, a teabagger found it necessary to defend his stupidity, and with that he came here to wreak havoc. The preceding events are a natural progression of a hot topic meeting open minds: intellectual bedlam.See, these Con-trolls intrude on these “liberal” forums expecting to dominate discussion in the manner their con-servative idols do in establishment media. These impressionable con-servative knaves are under the impression that these “discussions” they see on TV aren’t choreographed. They think it’s as simple as showing up, saying stupid shit, belittling a Democratic president, and the perceived timid “liberals” are supposed to cow to their logic. Along with this, they know that they will stand out in every way possible, as their ultimate goal is to cement their lopsided ideological inklings as righteous, since they are the fighting an uphill battle. They want to view themselves as underdogs fighting against a system stacked against them. All evidence points to the contrary, yet they still live in denial of the facts. The country is not center-right; the complicit Fourth Estate of corporate media infrastructure is – fact!Speaking for myself, there is no need to attribute your newfound dumbness to my participation in this thread. Nor do I find it necessary for you to indulge the fact that you are dumb. The trolls intruding on these forums would never announce themselves in such a manner.P.S.The two you’ve singled out are not the only ones guilty of doling out insults. Since “MB” is a craven dork that hides behind masquerades, be they military or demented liberal, I’m keeping an eye on you now, too, Dork Knight.

  • TimEldred

    Lex, I appreciate your desire to take a stand. Respect it, even. I often daydream of crushing neocons under a giant steamroller of concentrated logic.But after I read the first couple engagements, it very quickly became pointless. You type, he types, you type, he types. Nobody budges, and I have to think, “these guys must really value each others’ opinions, or they wouldn’t be trying so hard to change them.”If you’re looking for a line to shut someone down in a hurry, my pick would be: “Your opinion has no value to me. Don’t waste your time here.”Escalating a fight only means something in real life. Doing it on the interweb just drains you of valuable time and energy. My opinion.

  • MB

    (TSSamwell) aka: lemmicrat lexaburn needs a life or a least his own ranting rubber room. Engaging into any kind of discourse with this shit bird appears at first blush to be pointless. Samwell demonstrates himself to be a verbose bully. He obviously thinks highly about himself and usually at the expense of others.What I have taken exception to is his disparaging remarks toward veterans, and those who have served this country bravely including myself. Bitch tits chose to take the conversation to a personal level. Thus, I will never like this bastard especially when he cannot fathom settling one’s differences through mutual combat.I offered this option to allow Samwell to experience what many of us veterans feel when serving in a combat zone. Lexibum you have never experiences RPG’s or rockets coming at you. Nor has he ever witnessed a friend coming back from a routine patrol with a head wound from a sniper. That shit does change you.So many of these Jack-holes have no other experience of the world other than there respectable McDonald’s lifestyle. The world is a dangerous place. And the US need to take an active role in leading our world.Instead of focusing this energy on pointless empty rhetoric I would prefer to have a discourse on developing ideas that can and will effect change. So Samwell go slither back to that slimy rock you call home.

  • Lexaburn

    Damn, My Bitch is still here calling for a sympathetic ear. He continues to pull weak insults from his ass, as if this is a game of Dozens. He posits that I’m the one that “got personal” when he’s the one that was here ranting and raving about so-called “lemmicrats” before I’d ever arrived to berate him two Sundays ago, nevermind his going after anyone else that saw through his act. He still thinks his servicemen lie is convincing. He still believes that embellishing his tale with minutia befitting an individual that has served rings as authentic. Take into consideration that this is the same fool that came here under the guise of inquiring liberal, while at the same time pulling out notations on Sharia law taken cribbed from dubious sources. Take into account that this fool also feels the need to voice his opposition to the current president by spouting random on a plethora of subjects, including the president’s birth certificate and his showing respect to certain individuals with a bow. This idiot also took on the guise of a “concerned liberal,” criticizing the president on the grounds that he’s not “liberal” enough. All this for the sake of whining about the “Ground Zero Mosque,” btw.When many besides myself began to question My Bitch’s motivations, this coupled with my ridicule lead the imbecile to claim military service in the effort to stave of criticism aimed his way. He was also looking for someone to defend his right to aim invective at the president unabated. That is the long and short of it. The fool is still bluffing his way through this. A newly renewed effort after running off yesterday, as always. This coward never engages in the back and forth. He exhibits the same hit ‘n’ run tactics all trolls partake in.First the imbecile leaves one to three comments going against the grain, let’s say. He waits for the reactions to build up, then he addresses each with meaningless commentary filled with back-handed compliments, self-indulgent speculation, and outright insults to those supporting the president. Read the thread where he made his first appearance, and you all will see this troll’s angle.You know, some of the time I engage in these pointless flame wars online, a handful of seemingly reasonable members of the peanut gallery usually show up attempting to cast judgement on my conduct. I take it that since the troll’s pseudonym is somewhat indistinguishable, it makes sense for some to single out my own. Also, with the means I’ve taken to ridicule this hypocritical, oh-so repetitive con-servaknave dork, my comments stand out above all others.I’ve had numerous encounters online and off with those of My Bitch’s caliber. They make up these fanciful mental projections in order to stand out. Notice in the other thread he is the only one claiming to know Islam intimately, and he’s also the only one claiming that military experience gives him the right to be a bigot. This is a common view taken by naifs speculating on their inherent rights. Essentially, the troll’s logic says that having military experience gives his opinion extra weight compared to all others. This is a common point of view taken by psychotics i.e. con-servative trolls.I do not say any of this lightly. I’m saying that there is a potential sociopath in our midst. Now I cannot give this individual I’m berating a more thorough examination without his or his guardians’ consent, but understand that he bares all the traits. He’s oblivious to his own obnoxiousness, he blames others for his own predicaments, he concocts stories in order to dignify his pathetic actions, and he issues threats he later on disavows in order to play innocent. He’s also a brazen hypocrite and buffoon.Watch as he amplifies his lie. He knows that the setting of this forum leads to nothing more than a virtual stalemate, so he issues the hollow threat and continues to forward the lie about military service in order to one-up me.Read this line:”He obviously thinks highly about himself and usually at the expense of others.” – MB aka My BitchRead that very carefully, observe the imbecile’s conduct in this thread and the other Nicole linked to, and the scope of this “MB” fool’s con will be revealed.I tell you, he’s channeling fraud-peddlers and opportunists like Glen Speck and Sarah Palin.

  • Lexaburn

    TimEldred, you mistake my ridiculing this imbecile for trying to reason with him.No, I’ve always maintained that I have no other goal than kicking a troll.Read the following:”Dear Mr. Cesca,My trouble with President Obama is his persistent attempts to rewrite history. Review his Egypt speech as he tells about the barbary pirates under the rewriting of Muslims that helped America.As a seeker of truth, Mr. Cesca should not President Obama produce his actual birth certificate? I speculate that what you will find is Mr. Obama was born in a foriegn embassy and classified as a foriegn national.Secondly, I am for freedom of speech, freedom of press, and freedom of religion even though I hold no such beliefs in false hopes that assist people in reconciling their own mortality. I am not for establishing a beach head for Muslim extremists and nut bags to attempt to pervert our laws with those based on Sharia law.A Mosque funded by foreign Muslim money and interests built near or on ground zero is nothing less than an abomination.Since no recall is possible at the federal level as of yet only impeachment remains if the american public desires to relieve themselves of Mr. Bow-moment man refering to Mr. Obama’s bow to the Saudi king. I say let’s give Joe Biden a try. Go Joe Go Joe..”The above is the first comment this troll in another thread last week.Now read this:”I can see you like to take things to a personal level behind the safety of your small disheveled bronx closet in the basement of your mother’s crack house. It’s safe there for you now.You want to meet up? Step into a little octagon cage samwell and I can and will answer your questions about my military service with my authentic size 12 military issued boots that will stomp a mighty mudhole in the middle of your ass.Just say the word and sign the medical releases and we be on an’ crackin’.You are nothing special Samwell wannabe. Even sidecar has left you to stew in your own soiled underpants.You poised a question on the 2012 republican presidential candidates, Mitt Romney and/or Charlie Crist look fairly challenging. Either one would flush Obowlma down the sewer in 2012.Congressional democrats will lose control of both the house and the senate this coming November, then gridlock. I am thankful that Obie managed to replace the 2 seats on the sumpreme court. Now if there was some way Scalia would retire?It’s been fun Samwell. Now play time is over. You want to throw down, lets make it happen. There is no joking about serving in a war zone, no medicine for the memories,just pain, fear and death. So when you want to get real and want a little taste of it, sign the releases, and I will give you a little insight. Just go down to the United States Air force recruitment office located at 2488 Grand Concourse, Bronx – (718) 365-4849 post the name of who you saw and I will contact you through them.So there you go Samwell, step up or step off..”For the record, I told this moron that I live in Brooklyn, but his Google search gave him no options in that borough, so he chose to relay the fantasy about the Bronx. Anyway, the above is the troll ratcheting up his rhetoric in the effort to regain his ego-stroking. He knows that no one takes his commentary seriously, and that my monolithic approach to his bluffs will not budge, so he tries to out-machismo me, like all the other con-servaknave trolls. As noted, “MB” is about the third individual here claiming to be a cop and/or military servicemen to have threatened me on this very blog.Understanding the point of view of these trolls is key to understanding their pathology. You know how the con-servative movement places so much value on “the troops” and law-enforcement i.e. potential stormtroopers. Well, these trolls see themselves as pawns to begin with, so any effort they take on the establishment is seen as righteous. Since con-servative Republicons always view each disagreement as a “war,” these trolls view themselves as soldiers. At some point within their mind, the line between con-servaknave and military serviceman begin to blur, and with this you get troll’s like this “MB” character lying about having served in the military.I know, I know, it’s all very convoluted, but that is what is happening within each and every comment this “MB” fool leaves here.

  • Lexaburn

    Ignoring trolls does nothing to dissuade. They’ll amplify their trolling if you all proceed to disregard his existence. The fact that this is an open, non-uniform forum, there is always someone willing to engage a troll, what with the various opinionated patrons of this site. With that, the troll will increase his invective aimed at President Obama and Democrats anticipating a reaction. Observe his actions in the previous thread, and do not believe that I came here to reason with a troll. No, I came here to kick a troll, as always. In other words, I bait the troll the way he baits others. This is why the fool is requesting that I call up a damned recruitment center. He’d have been here calling you all “lemmicrats.”The troll knows he’s struggling here (it’s revealed subconsciously in each subsequent comment), so he issues the empty threats seemingly aimed at me in order to maintain his poker face, let’s say. He knows I’ll never believe his bluffs, so the threats are not aimed at intimidating me. No, those threats are for everyone observing this tit-for-tat. He’s still means to engage anyone in disagreement with his point of view. He’s already embellished his existence, so all he needs to do is bring a few of you to his side, meaing you actually believe his lies about having served in the military, and he’ll go right back to insulting you all. It never fails with these trolls.I told you all I’ve dealt with these people throughout my career. This troll believes he’s unique, but that is because he is a bonehead dwelling with a mental bubble of his own creation. As if this latest idiot is the first individual to threaten me. I’ve had people run at me with everything from shivs to office equipment, and this Internet dweeb believes his little schoolyard bravado will intimidate me. Like I said, the fool would have been placed in a straight jacket in my presence offline. He is of the peon mentality, yet he fumbling as he portrays himself as an expert in Islam, NY building codes, and American politics here on this blog. Bitch, please!

  • The Dork Knight

    Ok, last thing on this for me is a word of advice for Lex. Dude, calm down. You and I probably agree on most things. We certainly agree that MB is a douchebag troll. Hes beyond talking to, which is why I haven’t bothered. Rule number one to dealing with trolls, don’t feed them and they go away. Trolls are like terrorists, their goal is to draw us into an overreaction.Seriously, go back and read the things you have written to him, and me for that point. Your going to keep your eye on me now too? Who appointed you the obsessive-compulsive hall monitor with delusions of grandure? Try to picture how what you say comes across to others, because seriously, you come off like a childish, name calling lunatic with waaaay too much time on his hands. Imagine how much time and energy you have spent on this thread. And for what? Your just shouting into the void and letting the terrorist win. In ten years you will look back on this with embarrassment.Dude feed the trolls dude. Dont let the terrorists win. And try to do some good for someone today. :0) Peace!

  • Lexaburn

    Yes, an individual calling himself “The Drok Knight” is going to give me a lesson in netiquette and how to deal with troublemakers.Whatever, man.You’re damned right I’m going to keep an eye on you, since obviously you have no depth of perception and feel the need to single me out as opposed to the goon that aimed invective directly at me without provocation within this very thread. You read like the same imbecile with that logic of yours, and if you’re not, please refrain from ending up just like him, ok, Dork.Spare me your lectures regarding my conduct here, man. You read your initial comment and judge whether it can be construed as unnecessary. As if anyone reading the whole brouhaha needed your input. Then again, you claimed to be dumber after having read the whole thing, so I’m not necessarily surprised that you here now trying to learn me something, dumdum. You’re out of your league, and just begging for the troll to return here looking for you to take his side in this fracas.In ten years, I gather that my past experiences on this blog will be the least of my concerns. I cannot speak for anyone else besides myself, but do you really believe that anyone here will recall what went down in this one, singular thread? As if this is the first time a flame thread just happened on this blog.Letting a troll linger is how a troll wins. Besides, that it’s fun observing a troll bluff his way through a flame thread. Don’t tell me you’re actually believing the scrub is actually a serviceman or was looking for civil discussion. See, I’ve repeatedly mentioned that I’m here having my fun with this troll, so there will be no regrets regarding my actions. Cry to all the other Cescans about it, but that’s my reason for returning to this thread, Dork.Read this:”Who appointed you the obsessive-compulsive hall monitor with delusions of grandure?”Now when/if you return with a response to my comment, we’ll see just who ignores whom, ok, Dork.Can you fight the urge, Dork, or will “MB” make another appearance immediately following this here comment?No one spoil the surprise, ok. I sure won’t.Don’t be a hypocrite, Dork – IGNORE!Starting…now!

  • Lexaburn

    And for the record, whenever I visit this blog, I’m multitasking on and offline, so all my efforts are not necessarily focused on this singular event.Lest any other Dork Knights feel the need to waste their energies trying to reason with a man kicking a troll with relish, do yourselves a favor and go have a V8, ok.That’s my advice for all who read the preceding comments, and with that, I’ve done good for the day.Happy, Dork?

  • Lexaburn

    It’s funny how a creep inviting me to “step into the octagon” offline is seen as a mere “douchebag troll.”It’s not like I’m not giving you clues regarding the troll’s pathology. Again, this is not the first troll to threaten in such a manner.Nah! I get lame lectures regarding my admittedly overzealous conduct.You want to know how “the terrorists win,” Dork? They win when a party sits back and takes the abuse, seeing the nonsense as not worthy of attention. The idiot’s intention initially was to personally call out Bob, then a few here engaged him, including offering some advice on how to conduct himself. He pissed on that, and with that I took the initiative to have my fun. There’s no harm in this, really. I mean, were you all really meaning to be civilized toward a teabagger hiding behind victims of tragedy in order to espouse Republicon bunk in a contentious election year? As if I was the only one here having my fun.Sue me for kicking a troll repeatedly just begging to be kicked.Boy, oh boy, I’m a loon with too much time on my hands, armed with childish insults and what-have-you.Sure, Dork, sure.If all that is me, can we agree (since you said we could) that you’re a dummy with too much time on his hands, armed with nada because I made a contribution to this thread that left you dumb?Go on and believe I’m a jerk for calling it like I see it.S’not like I give a shit, AICN-dweller.Ignoring me yet, Dork?Chill out, duuuude!Blaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!Seriously, no one interrupt this thread. Let’s see if the “MB” troll returns or The Dork Knight.I’m betting it’ll be the latter, and the point of my pressing this matter will be made clear. I always have an ulterior motive.

  • Lexaburn

    In a fight, sacrifices must be made. This thread along with all the others a troll may inhabit must be relinquished.If trolls are like terrorists, tell us how ignoring a terrorist bent on causing trouble, using whatever means, will cause it to cease being one.Explain that to all of us, Dork.Such an overwrought sentiment is inapplicable. The ultimate goal of the terrorist is to suppress using unauthorized dominion. You explain how becoming a doormat for terrorism works against the terrorist, Dork Knight.Oh, I suppose you allow one or two terrorist acts to go by unabated, and people will see how bad the terrorists are, correct?Yeah, that sounds a little bit like what Bush did before 9/11, which lead to the buildup to Iraq, which lead to the quagmire, which lead to the…whatever the fuck happened last week. What was that anyway? Victory? Humph!Yes, let’s ignore the terrorists for the sake of not offending them with our verbosity and/or belligerence.Sheesh!

  • Lexaburn

    Don’t feed the troll and they go away, hmm?Ha!If they left hungry, they return even hungrier…and even more desperate.Read this:”Well said, ec remember that as you willingly march into the oven, simply for not being a believer.Ben Franklin said it well when he said, “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”Make no doubt about it September 11 2001 marked the beginning of an ideological war, a war being waged today in both propaganda and blood in our present day.Mr. Obama, as intelligent and articulate as he may be might be categorized as a naive whelp, insensitive elitist intellectual or a pawn and puppet of the Saudi regime but not a strong defender of our country and it’s constitution.Nicole, do you believe that Mr. Obama’s bow was appropriate behavior? Or maybe your own biases have blinded you to empirical truth instead of tainted perceptions. One of the hardest things to do is to unlearn. Can you free yourself, or do you prefer to wear a burka and head dress?”The above is the second comment the troll left two Sundays ago during his initial visit (as far as I could tell).Such a scatterbrained presentation is meant to befuddle those he means to insult. Intellectual terrorism must be answered immediately. This is a lesson I figure Mr. Cesca is familiar with, what with his going after Glen Speck and all. I was one pressing Bob to ignore that buffoon, and I’ve since settled on the fact that perhaps I was wrong on the matter. Speck means to menace the American populace with his hucksterism, as surely the “MB” troll meant to menace this blog with his con-servaknave shenanigans.You do not ignore trolling. If you do, you might as well give up all your humanity right there on the spot.Read each subsequent comment from the troll in that thread Nicole linked to earlier. Read those attempting to reason with the moron. Read those that immediately see through his act and call him out as a nuisance. Read how I come to the thread to join the chorus and have my fun at the troll’s expense. See, the troll was looking to have fun picking on some liberals, and found himself having to lie about serving in the military by the end of the thread.I proceeded to tell everyone that this con-servaknave troll was bent on protecting something he’d never indulge in light of this meager community center being proposed. That article slowly but surely revealed itself to be his own manhood. Again, convoluted, yes, but read the ignoramuses words, as well as his reaction to my picking on him. You’ll see the truth. This is why the moron requested that I call up a recruitment office and ask for his identity. Now let me explain to you all why such a request is ridiculous on its face, and why the troll persists in repeating it.As noted, the troll is seeing the community center as a beacon for Islamofascists ushering in Sharia law. They’ll supposedly do this under the guise of appealing to America tolerance for all religions. Now some of us know that this is all neocon bunk, but the troll went on to explain his demented point of view seriously as one in his slight condition could. Ultimately, it all revealed itself to be a bunch of blather regarding our might making right, and how the “emotions” of the victims of 9/11 took precedent over the Constitution.Nevermind all that, though. That was just a means to an end for this chump. What he was really looking to do was criticize President Obama, and by proxy, verbally assault those who voted for him and continue to support him (Americans?). As observed, the imbecile went through various verbal contortions in order to relay his disdain for the president, being as careful as a troll could to not be overly-aggressive in his criticism, lest the illusion of his actually possessing intellect beyond that which he gleaned from dubious media sources be revealed. With that, he makes a mockery out of a collective sentiment that the president, flawed as he may be, isn’t as awful as the troll portrayed him. The troll increases his rhetoric, which is where I come in. I immediately called out the troll, gave a method in how to deal with him, and relayed that the fight was just beginning. The troll took this to mean that I’d take anything he said seriously, doled out a link to some crummy article, and proceeded to insult me in the way he did everyone else.Now you know how the tit-for-tat went on. The troll means to linger just a little while longer, and with that, he extends the lie about having served in the military after being called a coward (which he is).All throughout this imbecile’s presentation, there have been subconscious allusions to his manhood being under attack. First, the “Ground Zero Mosque” will lead to “America” being castrated in some manner. Then he alludes to President Obama bowing to people being an affront to “America’s” superiority i.e. its masculinity (or his own). I’ve already mention his reaction to being called a coward (lied about serving in the military and having a scar he gawks at occasionally).Then when the stalemate between the two of us became apparent, “playtime” was apparently over, and he proceeded to invite me to an offline scuffle. This instance proves my theory that this is a dummy defending his manhood, but again, I cannot be sure exactly what ails this fool mentally without his or his guardians’ consent.The idle threat the fool left regarding the recruitment center is most laughable. The idiot expects me to take time from my schedule to call up a random recruitment office in order to settle an online kerfuffle. The authorities would proceed to lock both of us up. Not to mention the fact that if I’d reported half the shit this idiot posted online regarding his commander-in-chief he’d be put on notice for insubordination. The imbecile needs to read up on what happened to a general recently, and cease talking shit while lying about having served in the military. Damned blasted Con-troll fools always thinking their numerous bluffs mean shit. Laughable!I’m going to apologize for this long message, as I really do mean to be thorough in explaining myself. I know it pains some of you to have to read this long a comment, but really, my penchant for having fun at a troll’s expense often gets the better of me.