I missed this yesterday, but holy hell. Here's Joe Scarborough:
"[Zero Dark Thirty] presents a narrative that is going to make a lot of people in the mainstream media, in the Democratic party and in the administration uncomfortable, and that is the truth that Barack Obama learned, the first briefing that he got after after he won the election, and that is that the CIA program, whether you find it repugnant or not, actually was effective with KSM and other people getting actionable intelligence that led to couriers, that led, eventually, years later, to the killing of Osama bin Laden."
No. That's completely wrong by most authoritative accounts. John McCain:
In fact, the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” on Khalid Sheik Mohammed produced false and misleading information. He specifically told his interrogators that Abu Ahmed had moved to Peshawar, got married and ceased his role as an al-Qaeda facilitator — none of which was true. According to the staff of the Senate intelligence committee, the best intelligence gained from a CIA detainee — information describing Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti’s real role in al-Qaeda and his true relationship to bin Laden — was obtained through standard, noncoercive means.
Fact.
I'm not sure how any self-respecting human being can become so ridiculously frightened they would seriously defend torture. These right-wingers who claim to be so tough and manly -- they're the first ones to wet their big boy pants and scream for security by any means. Sad.